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Here we go again....Backward Boris strikes again!
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"Virus room Politics room "This. People come on here to get away from the virus and politics. | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning." "...Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning..." ------------- Exactly This
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"Virus room Politics room
This. People come on here to get away from the virus and politics. "Don't participate in those two forums then, easy! | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" He doesn't care what you personally get up to. | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner! He doesn't care what you personally get up to. " In other words, faux outrage. | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" Might cost you a few thousand quid extra though ... | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner! Might cost you a few thousand quid extra though ... " to be honest i think boris will be gone by christmas! | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner! Might cost you a few thousand quid extra though ... to be honest i think boris will be gone by christmas! " The Tories will still be in. | |||
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"Virus room Politics room
This. People come on here to get away from the virus and politics. "If thats what you think, Why did you click and post on the very clearly named VIRUS thread?  | |||
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"Clocks go back soon, the virus will be well confused " It gets an extra hour to create havoc  | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells?" I'm sure about this  | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner! Might cost you a few thousand quid extra though ... to be honest i think boris will be gone by christmas! The Tories will still be in. " The tories will but boris wont | |||
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"Virus room Politics room
This. People come on here to get away from the virus and politics. "You can, don't go into those sections of the forum and you can do as you wanted and get away from politics or the virus | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning." So you go out earlier and still spead the same amount of time in the pub, now are you waking up and smelling the bullshit. | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said." Now there's an outrageous idea!  | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning. So you go out earlier and still spead the same amount of time in the pub, now are you waking up and smelling the bullshit. " And surely people are not going to go home on a sat night at 10pm? | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" Count your blessings you're not in Scotland. | |||
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"Virus room Politics room
This. People come on here to get away from the virus and politics.
You can, don't go into those sections of the forum and you can do as you wanted and get away from politics or the virus"This thread was moved, originally posted in the lounge. | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner! Might cost you a few thousand quid extra though ... to be honest i think boris will be gone by christmas! " Not stopping me either | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" Christmas Day is exempt from any rules, it said on fb | |||
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"Virus room Politics room
This. People come on here to get away from the virus and politics.
You can, don't go into those sections of the forum and you can do as you wanted and get away from politics or the virus
This thread was moved, originally posted in the lounge.
"I know, I moved it before the comment but if I hadn't, the title should give away what the thread is about and could be avoided the same way | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning. "...Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning..." ------------- Exactly This
The decisions being made aim to create a balance between public health and the economy." | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning." And some are finding this very difficult to understand  | |||
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"And believe it should be putting far more resources into protecting the vulnerable and let the rest of us take our chances. "Everyone can be vulnerable and everyone who gets infected, if they don't immediately quarantine the moment when they are infectious to others, may be the person who infects others who may die, or ultimately cause others to die, or suffer lifelong disabilities. Certainly risk factors increase the risk but I can imagine that if you want the country to isolate all BAME and other vulnerable ethnic minorities, there would probably be uproar. Likewise, at what BMI or other measures, would people be classified as obese? Would huge bodybuilders be recompensed to isolate? Seemingly healthy people may get mild initial symptoms but have long term organ and internal bodily damage. Many may not know that they have a raised blood pressure, for example either. People may die in years to come, due to the initial damage that this infection caused but it won't be on their death certificate, due to having become a chronic condition. | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning. And some are finding this very difficult to understand "Im sure they are not really that thick just make out they are for an excuse to bash the government,well i hope they are not otherwise this virus is going to be around a very long time. | |||
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"He just said when we cough its the cough of death. " Olive oil is good for the lugs He said when we cough it "could be someone's death knell"... | |||
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"I like table service, just saying. It reminds of being in Spain. Oh those heady days." I was thinking this the other day....turn up, shown to your booked table, asked what we want to drink and its brought to you with periodic revisits from the staff for top ups. Life could be tougher  | |||
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"Never heard so much shit in my life haha " | |||
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"I like table service, just saying. It reminds of being in Spain. Oh those heady days. I was thinking this the other day....turn up, shown to your booked table, asked what we want to drink and its brought to you with periodic revisits from the staff for top ups. Life could be tougher " | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" And in doing so you could be waving goodbye to them in early 2021. Its just one day. | |||
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"Big cheer for Boris. Bring in the army and shoot the ones that can't be bothered to do as told . " Aka the common sense approach. | |||
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"Big cheer for Boris. Bring in the army and shoot the ones that can't be bothered to do as told . " Will Cummings be the 1st up against the wall? | |||
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"Big cheer for Boris. Bring in the army and shoot the ones that can't be bothered to do as told . Aka the common sense approach." Not sure that's what I would refer to as common sense, more like rabid fantasies.. | |||
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"Big cheer for Boris. Bring in the army and shoot the ones that can't be bothered to do as told . Aka the common sense approach. Not sure that's what I would refer to as common sense, more like rabid fantasies.." | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning. "...Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning..." ------------- Exactly This
The decisions being made aim to create a balance between public health and the economy."This | |||
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"At least its not another national lock down praise be" But that could potentially happen, if the stupid people pay no attention to the current guidelines, and just do what they want. | |||
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"Big cheer for Boris. Bring in the army and shoot the ones that can't be bothered to do as told . " Which presumably would have included Dom Cummings earlier this year? | |||
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"Clocks go back soon, the virus will be well confused " Funny | |||
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"Apparently Corona isn't infectious before 10 pm! " Please be mindful that its coming to autumn and Rona has to be home when the street lights come on | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this "With at least 50% Dolly. | |||
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"Clocks go back soon, the virus will be well confused " | |||
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"Virus room Politics room
This. People come on here to get away from the virus and politics. "So feel free not to read or comment | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly. "Dont mention sheep on here ffs | |||
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"Apparently Corona isn't infectious before 10 pm! " Johnson et al are buffoons. | |||
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"Never heard so much shit in my life haha " Well said that bloke. | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning. So you go out earlier and still spead the same amount of time in the pub, now are you waking up and smelling the bullshit. " Amen | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs "Oops sorry ma!  | |||
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"Never heard so much shit in my life haha Well said that bloke." Indeed x | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells?" No Trump is doing the opposite. Go Trump. | |||
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"Apparently Corona isn't infectious before 10 pm! Johnson et al are buffoons. " And this Is news? | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma! "Bah bah humbug | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" If you don't abide by the rules, you might not have any parents by Christmas. Grow up. | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug "Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple  | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug
Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple "I think they both have the same barber. And he's a bloody sadist. | |||
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"Work from home then at 5pm go to pub and socialize and home at 10 ,the virus will also go to sleep then lol " Lol. You should be running the country. You couldn't be worse than these clowns. | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug
Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple
I think they both have the same barber. And he's a bloody sadist."*Baaber | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug
Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple
I think they both have the same barber. And he's a bloody sadist."Who's a dafist? Boris? | |||
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"Work from home then at 5pm go to pub and socialize and home at 10 ,the virus will also go to sleep then lol Lol. You should be running the country. You couldn't be worse than these clowns." That's not fair. They have feelings you know! | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug
Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple
I think they both have the same barber. And he's a bloody sadist.
Who's a dafist? Boris?"Sadist. | |||
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"Work from home then at 5pm go to pub and socialize and home at 10 ,the virus will also go to sleep then lol Lol. You should be running the country. You couldn't be worse than these clowns. That's not fair. They have feelings you know!" So? | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug
Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple
I think they both have the same barber. And he's a bloody sadist.
Who's a dafist? Boris?"No the barber. I think Trump grabbed his daughter by the privates and Boris got her pregnant. | |||
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"Work from home then at 5pm go to pub and socialize and home at 10 ,the virus will also go to sleep then lol Lol. You should be running the country. You couldn't be worse than these clowns. That's not fair. They have feelings you know! So?" What did clowns do to deserve such insults? | |||
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"Apparently Corona isn't infectious before 10 pm! " Idiot | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science.." A bit of sense glad some of us have it | |||
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"Work from home then at 5pm go to pub and socialize and home at 10 ,the virus will also go to sleep then lol " If you work from home you are making less contact with people compared to when you go to work. If you go home at 10pm instead of 1am, again you are limiting the time and contact you make with other people. Limiting your time and contact with others reduces your probability of getting infected and / or reduces the probability of you infection others if you've had it. So that's the purpose of these restrictions - not to lock people indoors, but to reduce the probability of transmission. | |||
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"Work from home then at 5pm go to pub and socialize and home at 10 ,the virus will also go to sleep then lol If you work from home you are making less contact with people compared to when you go to work. If you go home at 10pm instead of 1am, again you are limiting the time and contact you make with other people. Limiting your time and contact with others reduces your probability of getting infected and / or reduces the probability of you infection others if you've had it. So that's the purpose of these restrictions - not to lock people indoors, but to reduce the probability of transmission." Say you go the pub 4 hours earlier? | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug
Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple
I think they both have the same barber. And he's a bloody sadist."You either mean baaaaaaber or sheep shearer | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science..A bit of sense glad some of us have it" Of course some people do, just not everyone and that is clear from reading this thread, this is not about politics, I hate the toris and all they stand for, but this is about people dying and being hospitalised and about people with no symptoms spreading the virus ! no one is seriously suggesting that thevirus cannot infect anyone before 10pm and everyone knows that so why the silly comments to that effect. what does change after 10pm is the number of pissed people milling around; not wearing masks and ignoring social distancing. as you all well know; but of course that common sense does not apply to people who are denying there even is a virus or that is not going to effect them and that they dont give a shit about anyone else. | |||
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"Do you think boris and trump were cloned from the same cells? I'm sure about this
With at least 50% Dolly.
Dont mention sheep on here ffs
Oops sorry ma!
Bah bah humbug
Baaaaaaht it must mean Bojo and Dozo are the original sheeple
I think they both have the same barber. And he's a bloody sadist.
*Baaber"You beat me, bugger | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science..A bit of sense glad some of us have it Of course some people do, just not everyone and that is clear from reading this thread, this is not about politics, I hate the toris and all they stand for, but this is about people dying and being hospitalised and about people with no symptoms spreading the virus ! no one is seriously suggesting that thevirus cannot infect anyone before 10pm and everyone knows that so why the silly comments to that effect. what does change after 10pm is the number of pissed people milling around; not wearing masks and ignoring social distancing. as you all well know; but of course that common sense does not apply to people who are denying there even is a virus or that is not going to effect them and that they dont give a shit about anyone else. " To be fair theres quite a few on here who do give this some thought and are worried. Yeah you will get cracks about the 10pm Shutdown on the pubs as we all really know the pubs will end up shut again. But as you say they wont milling about after 10pm...in the town centres now they will be milling about pissed will your in there doing your shopping. | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" Lets hope there are no neighbours who have a grudge with the family, you might give them the justification to report you. | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then...." They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science.." That's fucking worked well up till now hasn't it | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. " Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science.. That's fucking worked well up till now hasn't it "No because we didn't get a fucking choice. | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science.. That's fucking worked well up till now hasn't it
No because we didn't get a fucking choice.
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner! If you don't abide by the rules, you might not have any parents by Christmas. Grow up." Perhaps his parents aren't fat or unhealthy, perhaps they would like to see him and are happy to take the small risk that it entails. | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science.. That's fucking worked well up till now hasn't it "It worked well in Sweden. | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science.. That's fucking worked well up till now hasn't it
It worked well in Sweden."Yes it did, but one has to remember that different countries have different approaches or reactions within their respective Society make-up and how well they accept what their Govt's suggest for their overall safety and well being! | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is "Rationale for your statement? | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement? "Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party. What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!". There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along. I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward. | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward."Totally agree, however, I'd like to think the opposition would have been transparent about the PPE and less likely to have engaged and fund the old boy network with contracts. Oh and not changed goal posts re targets and the such like. | |||
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"Apparently Corona isn't infectious before 10 pm! " Yep, that's definitely what was said | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward.
Totally agree, however, I'd like to think the opposition would have been transparent about the PPE and less likely to have engaged and fund the old boy network with contracts. Oh and not changed goal posts re targets and the such like. "Lol, you can't actually believe that? Politicians are all sly. | |||
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"At the end of the day,just use your common sense..protect yourself and others, it's not rocket science.. That's fucking worked well up till now hasn't it
It worked well in Sweden."One big issue with that, this isn't Sweden | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward.". Me too sadly I don't think we're going to escape this particular predicament with this government and media, sometime in the spring I expect a significant part of our economy to collapse bringing the whole pack of cards down with it, come march it's possible we'll be eating our pets like they did in Venezuela a few years back.  | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward.
Totally agree, however, I'd like to think the opposition would have been transparent about the PPE and less likely to have engaged and fund the old boy network with contracts. Oh and not changed goal posts re targets and the such like.
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward..
Me too sadly I don't think we're going to escape this particular predicament with this government and media, sometime in the spring I expect a significant part of our economy to collapse bringing the whole pack of cards down with it, come march it's possible we'll be eating our pets like they did in Venezuela a few years back. "But I don't fancy eating pussy | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward..
Me too sadly I don't think we're going to escape this particular predicament with this government and media, sometime in the spring I expect a significant part of our economy to collapse bringing the whole pack of cards down with it, come march it's possible we'll be eating our pets like they did in Venezuela a few years back.
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward..
Me too sadly I don't think we're going to escape this particular predicament with this government and media, sometime in the spring I expect a significant part of our economy to collapse bringing the whole pack of cards down with it, come march it's possible we'll be eating our pets like they did in Venezuela a few years back.
But I don't fancy eating pussy
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"Work from home then at 5pm go to pub and socialize and home at 10 ,the virus will also go to sleep then lol If you work from home you are making less contact with people compared to when you go to work. If you go home at 10pm instead of 1am, again you are limiting the time and contact you make with other people. Limiting your time and contact with others reduces your probability of getting infected and / or reduces the probability of you infection others if you've had it. So that's the purpose of these restrictions - not to lock people indoors, but to reduce the probability of transmission." Far too sensible for some on here mate. | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning." And they are less likely to get pissed up and in bother and end up in A & E. | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning. And they are less likely to get pissed up and in bother and end up in A & E." NHS wins twice with less Covid and less pissed up people in A & E taking time up with precious resources. | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then.... They couldn't do any worse and one would hope, better. Really....this from the man who today said he was busy fighting terrorists while Boris wrote hype for a newspaper. If you think we are doomed with Covid, let him in and see what doomed really is
Rationale for your statement?
Look, it's not a case of who could've done better politically, than any other group or Party.
What we have had here since March is a global phenomenon not seen in our lifetime. Whoever was in charge in the UK has been placed in the unenviable position of being "damned for what they've done" but also "damned for what they haven't done!".
There's no text book on how to deal with this, no correct way nor incorrect way, but learning by as they go along.
I'd have thought that right from the beginning though, that Political Rivalries should have been put aside and a Collective approach be built up in order to move forward..
Me too sadly I don't think we're going to escape this particular predicament with this government and media, sometime in the spring I expect a significant part of our economy to collapse bringing the whole pack of cards down with it, come march it's possible we'll be eating our pets like they did in Venezuela a few years back.
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. " Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed." Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this?" Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said?" What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . | |||
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"We don't want another lock down nationwide, if people respect the rules it hopefully will be avoided. The economy and people's mental health can't stand it. Boris is doing his best to avoid the extreme stuff, it's about compromise. " I agree It’s a very fine balance . | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth ." I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm." you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution? | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution?" To not shut at 10 pm? | |||
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"Or you could listen to what is actually being said. The reason for the 10pm closing is to limit the amount of time people are down the pub and hopefully lessen their exposure to any potential virus floating about. Trying to lower infection numbers while still keeping the hospitality businesses open and earning." Exactly. Well put. Thank you. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution? To not shut at 10 pm?" is that your answer not to shut at 10? as i am confused by the question mark after your statement. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution?" People have lost faith in Boris and the government , his bumbling incoherent speeches and meaningless 3 word slogans don’t work. When he says ‘go home at 10’ people laugh and ignore him, his track record during this crisis has been pathetic , I guess there is only one solution, he has to resign | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution? People have lost faith in Boris and the government , his bumbling incoherent speeches and meaningless 3 word slogans don’t work. When he says ‘go home at 10’ people laugh and ignore him, his track record during this crisis has been pathetic , I guess there is only one solution, he has to resign "No some do others want this to end so will follow the advice given. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution? To not shut at 10 pm? is that your answer not to shut at 10? as i am confused by the question mark after your statement." You asked for my solution which I posed as a question. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution? People have lost faith in Boris and the government , his bumbling incoherent speeches and meaningless 3 word slogans don’t work. When he says ‘go home at 10’ people laugh and ignore him, his track record during this crisis has been pathetic , I guess there is only one solution, he has to resign No some do others want this to end so will follow the advice given. "We will soon find out, let’s be honest, he has lost the respect of many people for various reasons , he is a lame duck , time for him to put country before himself and resign. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm." I know you didn’t say anything about a lockdown , and I certainly didn’t say you said anything about it - I asked if you are in favour of it though. You don’t think people will go home at 10pm - so what’s an alternative to shutting at 10? If subtle measures don’t work, is full lockdown the only alternative - and do you support it ? | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. I know you didn’t say anything about a lockdown , and I certainly didn’t say you said anything about it - I asked if you are in favour of it though. You don’t think people will go home at 10pm - so what’s an alternative to shutting at 10? If subtle measures don’t work, is full lockdown the only alternative - and do you support it ? " I've said once before..dont shut at 10.At least in the pub it's a controlled environment. I think another lockdown would cause too much damage economic ally.. I doubt very much if we will see another 6 month lockdown. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution? People have lost faith in Boris and the government , his bumbling incoherent speeches and meaningless 3 word slogans don’t work. When he says ‘go home at 10’ people laugh and ignore him, his track record during this crisis has been pathetic , I guess there is only one solution, he has to resign No some do others want this to end so will follow the advice given.
We will soon find out, let’s be honest, he has lost the respect of many people for various reasons , he is a lame duck , time for him to put country before himself and resign. "Well probably by people who never liked him in the 1st place, like some on here who like to politicize every announcement but never mention any other leaders who are doing exactly the same thing. Only have to look at the rules in scotland never see her mentioned though so yes lets be honest on here its just boris bashing.Of course he is not going to get everything right just like other leaders all over the world but overall i think the government has done its best under the circumstances looking after people by furlough helping by mortgage holidays,rates cuts etc but hey ho just my opinion.  | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again." Agreed. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again." Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. " Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that." Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. | |||
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"I would have thought it was all obvious. The later it gets the more pissed people get and social distancing goes out of the window. I would have thought its a Ballance between keeping the R number down while still trying to keep some people in a job. Yep I'm sure at 10 everyone will go home and go to bed. Maybe not, what would you suggest? Total lockdown is your preferred option - you would support this? Why don't you try not inventing stuff people have never said? What? You have said people won’t go home at 10. I have asked what would you suggest and would you support a total lockdown . Questions Lionel - I’m not putting words in your mouth . I said nothing whatsoever about a total lockdown The op said the more d*unk people get, social distance will go out the window. Untrue.The pub will have strict guidelines to follow (table service etc) Once the pub closes these measures will be lost and it's highly unlikely that everyone will go home at 10pm. you have also said people wont go home at 10 what is your solution? People have lost faith in Boris and the government , his bumbling incoherent speeches and meaningless 3 word slogans don’t work. When he says ‘go home at 10’ people laugh and ignore him, his track record during this crisis has been pathetic , I guess there is only one solution, he has to resign No some do others want this to end so will follow the advice given.
We will soon find out, let’s be honest, he has lost the respect of many people for various reasons , he is a lame duck , time for him to put country before himself and resign. Well probably by people who never liked him in the 1st place, like some on here who like to politicize every announcement but never mention any other leaders who are doing exactly the same thing. Only have to look at the rules in scotland never see her mentioned though so yes lets be honest on here its just boris bashing.Of course he is not going to get everything right just like other leaders all over the world but overall i think the government has done its best under the circumstances looking after people by furlough helping by mortgage holidays,rates cuts etc but hey ho just my opinion. "I don’t live in Scotland. I agree, the financial side has been impressive, the rest has been oa car crash, only my opinion though. The next few weeks will indicate how much people follow and respect his ‘advice’ | |||
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"Tell you what.....let's put Starmer and Co in charge and see what they can do then...." The point is, the Tories are in. We can only go on what is happening now | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner!" Lovely. Covid Christmas present. They'll love you | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault." Seriously? | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that." .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. There really is no appeasing some individuals and they will moan for morning sake. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. Seriously?" Yes seriously do a bit of research on who is most at risk and the percentages of those people in each country in europe. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that. .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. There really is no appeasing some individuals and they will moan for morning sake. " If you think the measures are not going to be effective,you have every right to criticise. Wearing masks imho is a sensible precaution. Closing pubs at 10, I think Is flawed. If you choose to flout the rules..well that's your choice. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. Seriously?Yes seriously do a bit of research on who is most at risk and the percentages of those people in each country in europe. " I have serously heard it all now. S'funny because when Italy was in meltdown all the talk was 'well at least we are not as bad as Italy. Now we have overtaken them we have strangely the most susceptible population in Europe. How very convenient. | |||
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"Just try checking out restrictions in other countries. You'll find its pretty much the same. So pointless blaming one man in the UK " I cant keep up with this. 1st we compare our death rates with europe. When we overtake them boris says..its pointless comparing other countries. Now we are comparing again? The gmnt take collective responsibility but the pm is the head honcho. That's what they are paid to do. | |||
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" i think the government has done its best under the circumstances looking after people by furlough helping by mortgage holidays,rates cuts etc but hey ho just my opinion. "Yeah that bit was good, hopefully they have something more in place if jobs are beginning to be lost for these restrictions What do you think of Test and Trace? What do you think of people not being able to get tests? What do you think of Contracts for millions for PPE given to firms that don't have any history of supplying PPE? Or contracts for millions for PPE for a ltd that was only opened a week before? | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. Seriously?Yes seriously do a bit of research on who is most at risk and the percentages of those people in each country in europe. I have serously heard it all now. S'funny because when Italy was in meltdown all the talk was 'well at least we are not as bad as Italy. Now we have overtaken them we have strangely the most susceptible population in Europe. How very convenient. " Well if you want to take Italy as an example it has a similar population. The elderly make up 23.1% compared to 20.4% of the uk but when you add in the bame population the uk has 9% more aso stands to reason we have more deaths. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. Seriously?Yes seriously do a bit of research on who is most at risk and the percentages of those people in each country in europe. " Public health policies for decades have all been failing to address many areas, it's a complex issue and yes some is personal responsibility but there are many other factors that contribute.. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. Seriously?Yes seriously do a bit of research on who is most at risk and the percentages of those people in each country in europe. I have serously heard it all now. S'funny because when Italy was in meltdown all the talk was 'well at least we are not as bad as Italy. Now we have overtaken them we have strangely the most susceptible population in Europe. How very convenient. Well if you want to take Italy as an example it has a similar population. The elderly make up 23.1% compared to 20.4% of the uk but when you add in the bame population the uk has 9% more aso stands to reason we have more deaths. " Dont Italy have much more inter generational families living together? | |||
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" .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. " People don't have to agree with everything that is done to comply and can obviously criticise if they want to, I am not sure why you think people can't | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. " And there will always be those that will blindly follow them without question or scrutiny, | |||
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"He can fucking do one if he thinks he is going to stop me from attending my parents for our christmas dinner! Count your blessings you're not in Scotland." hey its not just Scotland. We in the North east can't have, anyone in our house as well. We, are all in this, together.... No no no. Tell that to the people of the North east and Lancashire. The leper colonies of England, | |||
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" Closing pubs at 10, I think Is flawed. If you choose to flout the rules..well that's your choice." You see you say people will congregate at 10 O'clock, yes they probably will but they "might" be sober enough to keep their distance at that point. I thought they may be doing it to limit the amount people may drink while in the pub so will be less likely to forget about social distancing and wrap your arms round someone and tell them you lurrrve them in a d*unken stupor. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that. .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. There really is no appeasing some individuals and they will moan for morning sake. If you think the measures are not going to be effective,you have every right to criticise. Wearing masks imho is a sensible precaution. Closing pubs at 10, I think Is flawed. If you choose to flout the rules..well that's your choice." Flout the rules and then moan about it as they are then made even stricter, unfortunately some will never take responsibility of why that is ..... forget having a drink in the pub I’d much prefer the option of seeing my family again sometime in the next six months. If that means the rules get stricter to enable that, then so be it. I know where my priorities lie | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. Seriously?Yes seriously do a bit of research on who is most at risk and the percentages of those people in each country in europe. I have serously heard it all now. S'funny because when Italy was in meltdown all the talk was 'well at least we are not as bad as Italy. Now we have overtaken them we have strangely the most susceptible population in Europe. How very convenient. Well if you want to take Italy as an example it has a similar population. The elderly make up 23.1% compared to 20.4% of the uk but when you add in the bame population the uk has 9% more aso stands to reason we have more deaths. Dont Italy have much more inter generational families living together?" That i dont know how to find out but i think it could compare with the uk asian population who also do. Mate im just pointing out to you everything is not as black and white as you seem to believe, there are many demographics to each country and no its not good to compare death rates but think it was you who brought it up again to make a political point. | |||
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" Closing pubs at 10, I think Is flawed. If you choose to flout the rules..well that's your choice. You see you say people will congregate at 10 O'clock, yes they probably will but they "might" be sober enough to keep their distance at that point. I thought they may be doing it to limit the amount people may drink while in the pub so will be less likely to forget about social distancing and wrap your arms round someone and tell them you lurrrve them in a d*unken stupor." I just cant see people just stopping drinking at 10. They are much likely to go round to someones house. | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that.Which could also be attributed to having more a susceptible population than the rest of europe hardly this governments fault. Seriously?Yes seriously do a bit of research on who is most at risk and the percentages of those people in each country in europe. I have serously heard it all now. S'funny because when Italy was in meltdown all the talk was 'well at least we are not as bad as Italy. Now we have overtaken them we have strangely the most susceptible population in Europe. How very convenient. Well if you want to take Italy as an example it has a similar population. The elderly make up 23.1% compared to 20.4% of the uk but when you add in the bame population the uk has 9% more aso stands to reason we have more deaths. Dont Italy have much more inter generational families living together?That i dont know how to find out but i think it could compare with the uk asian population who also do. Mate im just pointing out to you everything is not as black and white as you seem to believe, there are many demographics to each country and no its not good to compare death rates but think it was you who brought it up again to make a political point. "Erm..look at the Title of the thread. | |||
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" .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. People don't have to agree with everything that is done to comply and can obviously criticise if they want to, I am not sure why you think people can't" I never said they couldn’t criticise. | |||
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" forget having a drink in the pub I’d much prefer the option of seeing my family again sometime in the next six months. If that means the rules get stricter to enable that, then so be it. I know where my priorities lie" This goes for us too | |||
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" forget having a drink in the pub I’d much prefer the option of seeing my family again sometime in the next six months. If that means the rules get stricter to enable that, then so be it. I know where my priorities lie This goes for us too "me too | |||
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" .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. People don't have to agree with everything that is done to comply and can obviously criticise if they want to, I am not sure why you think people can't I never said they couldn’t criticise. " You asked is that a reason to criticise, yes it is if people think it is needed | |||
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"Boris was criticised for locking down to late last time so he is not going to make the same mistake twice. It is a win win situation for him. If the numbers go down then he can claim the credit, if the go up then he can say we didn't follow the rules and it has to be tighter. If he didn't tighten the rules and the numbers go up he will be criticised again. Agree No matter what he / the government do there will always be those that will criticise and pick fault. Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that. .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. There really is no appeasing some individuals and they will moan for morning sake. If you think the measures are not going to be effective,you have every right to criticise. Wearing masks imho is a sensible precaution. Closing pubs at 10, I think Is flawed. If you choose to flout the rules..well that's your choice. Flout the rules and then moan about it as they are then made even stricter, unfortunately some will never take responsibility of why that is ..... forget having a drink in the pub I’d much prefer the option of seeing my family again sometime in the next six months. If that means the rules get stricter to enable that, then so be it. I know where my priorities lie" The whole point is if you think the rules are going to make any difference or not. | |||
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" The whole point is if you think the rules are going to make any difference or not." who knows until they try, but personally I think where drink is involved, social distancing goes out of the window so probably not unless everyone stays sober. I know he has to get the economy going and obviously try and keep business going but I can see them closing again if people take no notice of the guidelines | |||
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" .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. People don't have to agree with everything that is done to comply and can obviously criticise if they want to, I am not sure why you think people can't I never said they couldn’t criticise. You asked is that a reason to criticise, yes it is if people think it is needed" Which was in response to this comment given as why people do “Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that” | |||
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". Flout the rules and then moan about it as they are then made even stricter, unfortunately some will never take responsibility of why that is ..... forget having a drink in the pub I’d much prefer the option of seeing my family again sometime in the next six months. If that means the rules get stricter to enable that, then so be it. I know where my priorities lie The whole point is if you think the rules are going to make any difference or not." Only time will tell....but personally, yes I think they will if people stick to them but therein lies the problem | |||
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" .... is that any reason to now ignore / criticise steps they are being put in place to try and stop it getting even higher. People don't have to agree with everything that is done to comply and can obviously criticise if they want to, I am not sure why you think people can't I never said they couldn’t criticise. You asked is that a reason to criticise, yes it is if people think it is needed Which was in response to this comment given as why people do “Having one of the worst death rates in Europe probably contributes to that” " You said no matter what the gmnt do..people will always criticise. We have one of the worst death rates in Europe and we could be here all day listing the cock ups,blunders,corruption and incompetence which has gone on If people wanna say they are doing their best, be my guest but dont expect everyone to agree. That's the whole point of a forum. | |||
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