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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50."

The amendment was a motion which is non binding so i guess she will go with the people.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

She'll do what she has done from day one - whatever she thinks will keep herself and the Conservative Party in power.

Given the hole she has dug for herself doing that so far, your guess is as good as mine as to which she will turn.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

* which way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50.

The amendment was a motion which is non binding so i guess she will go with the people."

Neither option was binding

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50.

The amendment was a motion which is non binding so i guess she will go with the people.

Neither option was binding "

This..

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50."

She has to go with the people and leave the EU with no deal in that situation. The people are the boss of MP's and MP's are put there by the people to serve the people (something which many of them seem to have forgotten).

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50.

She has to go with the people and leave the EU with no deal in that situation. The people are the boss of MP's and MP's are put there by the people to serve the people (something which many of them seem to have forgotten)."

But the people have not expressed a wish to leave with 'no deal' and May herself doesn't actually believe leaving with 'no deal' is better than leaving with a bad deal. All she's said about 'no deal' is better than a bad deal. Well take this bit of logic. Remaining is also a 'no deal' too.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS  over a year ago

Stockport

I could imagine it getting to the 28th and Mrs May making a public announcement:

"Well hubby has made a fortune now with our insider dealing on brexit. We've sold the house and we're pissing off to south america. As for this clusterfuck I've landed the country with, not my problem any more, all you twats can sort it out between yourselves. Bye bye everyone, I'd love to say it's been good working with you, but I can't, you're all arseholes."

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50.

She has to go with the people and leave the EU with no deal in that situation. The people are the boss of MP's and MP's are put there by the people to serve the people (something which many of them seem to have forgotten).

But the people have not expressed a wish to leave with 'no deal' and May herself doesn't actually believe leaving with 'no deal' is better than leaving with a bad deal. All she's said about 'no deal' is better than a bad deal. Well take this bit of logic. Remaining is also a 'no deal' too.

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The question on the ballot paper was not "do you want to leave with a deal"

The question on the ballot paper was do you want to remain or leave.

The people chose leave.

Remain is no longer an option.

Leaving with no deal would answer the question of the referendum as expressed on the ballot paper.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Theresa May will probably have one of the toughest decisions ever in UK politics if she is not allowed another meaningful vote and the EU vote against any extension to article 50.

Will she allow the UK to exit the EU on the 29th with a no deal thus appeasing the voters or will she honour the amendment passed in parliament and do the only course of action left to her and revoke article 50."

Leaving without a deal is not "appeasing the voters".

It's appeasing a tiny portion of ultra fanatical leavers.

The constant mantra of the "will of the people" has become less tenable with each step in this process.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


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But the people have not expressed a wish to leave with 'no deal' and May herself doesn't actually believe leaving with 'no deal' is better than leaving with a bad deal. All she's said about 'no deal' is better than a bad deal. Well take this bit of logic. Remaining is also a 'no deal' too.

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The extant mandate is the 2017 Conservative Party manifesto, not the 2016 referendum result.

There is no political mandate for leaving without an agreement.

This is what the 2017 manifesto stated:

"As we leave the European Union, we will no longer be members of the single market or customs union.

We will seek a deep and special partnership including a comprehensive free trade and customs agreement.

We will pursue free trade with European markets, and secure new trade agreements with other countries.

We believe it is necessary to agree the terms of our future partnership alongside our withdrawal, reaching agreement on both within the two years allowed by Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union.

The negotiations will undoubtedly be tough, and there will be give and take on both sides, but we continue to believe that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK.

And we will protect the democratic freedom of the people of Gibraltar and our overseas territories to remain British, for as long as that is their wish.

We want to work together in the fight against crime and terrorism, collaborate in science and innovation – and secure a smooth, orderly Brexit.

There may be specific European programmes in which we might want to participate and if so, it will be reasonable that we make a contribution.

The days of Britain making vast annual contributions to the European Union will end.

Our laws will be made in London, Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast, and interpreted by judges across the United Kingdom, not in Luxembourg.

We will not bring the European Union’s Charter of Fundamental Rights into UK law.

We will enact a Great Repeal Bill.

The bill will convert EU law into UK law, allowing businesses and individuals to go about life knowing that the rules have not changed overnight.

The bill will also create the necessary powers to correct the laws that do not operate appropriately once we have left the EU, so our legal system can continue to function correctly outside the EU. Once EU law has been converted into domestic law, parliament will be able to pass legislation

As well as the Great Repeal Bill, we will bring forward a number of additional bills to ensure that when we have left the EU there is a clear statutory basis for United Kingdom authorities to exercise powers that are currently exercised through EU law and institutions.

The final agreement will be subject to a vote in both houses of parliament.

We will ensure immediate stability by lodging new UK schedules with the World Trade Organization, in alignment with EU schedules to which we are bound whilst still a member of the European Union.

We will seek to replicate all existing EU free trade agreements and support the ratification of trade agreements entered into during our EU membership.

We will continue to support the global multilateral rules-based trade system.

We will introduce a Trade Bill in the next parliament.

We will create a network of Her Majesty’s Trade Commissioners to head nine new regional overseas posts. These commissioners will lead export promotion, investment and trade policy overseas.

We will reconvene the Board of Trade with a membership specifically charged with ensuring that we increase exports from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well as England, and that trade policy is directly influenced by every part of our United Kingdom.

The United Kingdom will be a global champion for an open economy, free trade, and the free flow of investment, ideas and information.

We believe the UK must seize the unique opportunities it has to forge a new set of trade and investment relationships around the world.

We will control immigration and secure the entitlements of EU nationals in Britain and British nationals in the EU.

It is our objective to reduce immigration to sustainable levels, by which we mean annual net migration in the tens of thousands, rather than the hundreds of thousands we have seen over the last two decades.

We will, therefore, continue to bear down on immigration from outside the European Union.

Overseas students will remain in the immigration statistics – in line with international definitions – and within scope of the government’s policy to reduce annual net migration.

[We will] establish an immigration policy that allows us to reduce and control the number of people who come to Britain from the European Union, while still allowing us to attract the skilled workers our economy needs.

Workers’ rights conferred on British citizens from our membership of the EU will remain.

We shall produce a comprehensive 25 Year Environment Plan that will chart how we will improve our environment as we leave the European Union and take control of our environmental legislation again.

Regulation is necessary for the proper ordering of any economy and to ensure that people – and their investments – are protected. However, poor and excessive government regulation limits growth for no good reason. So we will continue to regulate more efficiently, saving £9 billion through the Red Tape Challenge and the One-In-Two-Out Rule.

When we leave the European Union and its Common Fisheries Policy, we will be fully responsible for the access and management of the waters where we have historically exercised sovereign control.

To provide complete legal certainty to our neighbours and clarity during our negotiations with the European Union, we will withdraw from the London Fisheries Convention.

We will use the structural fund money that comes back to the UK following Brexit to create a United Kingdom Shared Prosperity Fund, specifically designed to reduce inequalities between communities across our four nations.

We will respect the devolution settlements: no decision-making that has been devolved will be taken back to Westminster. Indeed, we envisage that the powers of the devolved administrations will increase as we leave the EU.

As we leave the European Union we recognise Northern Ireland’s unique circumstances and will seek to ensure that Northern Ireland’s interests are protected.

We will maintain the Common Travel Area and maintain as frictionless a border as possible for people, goods and services between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The people will get whatever their fucking given

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By *losguygl3Man  over a year ago

Gloucester


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She has to go with the people and leave the EU with no deal in that situation. The people are the boss of MP's and MP's are put there by the people to serve the people (something which many of them seem to have forgotten)."

Actual no. MPs are elected representatives not delegates. Their job is supposed to be to act in what they think is the best interests of primarily the Nation and secondly their constituents. We constituents can't order them to vote one way or another.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"The people will get whatever their fucking given "

By the EU.

How ironic that the incompetence of the May Government means control of the UK's exit now lies in the hands of the other 27 heads of government at the Council of Ministers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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She has to go with the people and leave the EU with no deal in that situation. The people are the boss of MP's and MP's are put there by the people to serve the people (something which many of them seem to have forgotten).

Actual no. MPs are elected representatives not delegates. Their job is supposed to be to act in what they think is the best interests of primarily the Nation and secondly their constituents. We constituents can't order them to vote one way or another. "

True, although I would argue that they should at least consider the view of their constituents. After all, they will be counting on them to re-elect them at the following General election

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The people will get whatever their fucking given

By the EU.

How ironic that the incompetence of the May Government means control of the UK's exit now lies in the hands of the other 27 heads of government at the Council of Ministers.

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Well that's exactly it.

It was always going to be what the EU was willing to GIVE US, only idiots believed "they need us more than we need them"

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By *ony 2016Man  over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

Given the choice between the voters and parliament, the tories will choose the Conservative party

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The people will get whatever their fucking given "

I was always brought up to expect nothing then you cannot be disappointed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Given the choice between the voters and parliament, the tories will choose the Conservative party "

And labour would be any different?

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By *losguygl3Man  over a year ago

Gloucester


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She has to go with the people and leave the EU with no deal in that situation. The people are the boss of MP's and MP's are put there by the people to serve the people (something which many of them seem to have forgotten).

Actual no. MPs are elected representatives not delegates. Their job is supposed to be to act in what they think is the best interests of primarily the Nation and secondly their constituents. We constituents can't order them to vote one way or another.

True, although I would argue that they should at least consider the view of their constituents. After all, they will be counting on them to re-elect them at the following General election "

Agreed

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By *ony 2016Man  over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas


"Given the choice between the voters and parliament, the tories will choose the Conservative party

And labour would be any different? "

. They probably would , but the question was about May and the Conservative party ,,,,, The Conservative party continued assurtion that they are working in the national interest is pure and simply unbelievable,,

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS  over a year ago

Stockport

Theresa May will choose neither voters nor parliament. She will choose just exactly whatever gives her a single moment longer in power.

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