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By *ust some cock sucker OP   Man  over a year ago

Preston


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

"

Keep on winning

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

Friend of mine a remainer started a business on Jan2nd as saw a gap in the market due to Brexit.Doing really well even got a bank loan easily.They said this morning to me if they had know it was going to be so good they would have voted to leave.

Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

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By *isandhers691127Couple  over a year ago

Bournemouth

Well thats conclusive evidence if ever there was, end of debate really.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Well thats conclusive evidence if ever there was, end of debate really. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Friend of mine a remainer started a business on Jan2nd as saw a gap in the market due to Brexit.Doing really well even got a bank loan easily.They said this morning to me if they had know it was going to be so good they would have voted to leave.

Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about"

Never happened

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"Friend of mine a remainer started a business on Jan2nd as saw a gap in the market due to Brexit.Doing really well even got a bank loan easily.They said this morning to me if they had know it was going to be so good they would have voted to leave.

Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about"

Ha ha ha

How great to exist on an anonymous forum.

Guess what my cock is 14 inches long and twice as thick lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Friend of mine a remainer started a business on Jan2nd as saw a gap in the market due to Brexit.Doing really well even got a bank loan easily.They said this morning to me if they had know it was going to be so good they would have voted to leave.

Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Ha ha ha

How great to exist on an anonymous forum.

Guess what my cock is 14 inches long and twice as thick lol"

Don’t be to harsh , maybe Emma’s ‘friend ‘ has started selling magic beans to the Brexit fanatics

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning "

Did these people take into account Emma's spit drenched friend? They might be bringing in over £45 billion in the next two years to balance this out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

Did these people take into account Emma's spit drenched friend? They might be bringing in over £45 billion in the next two years to balance this out. "

I hate to burst Emma’s bubble but I have ‘2 friends’ who both voted leave and told me this morning that Brexit is a shit sandwich and they wished they had voted remain, this is a true story

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about "

Something for everyone to think about

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about "

What about if we had all be positive when we didn't have the huge economic impact of brexi?

Something to think about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about "

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Meanwhile the UK are in talks to join the CPTPP, which Biden is likely to rejoin, meaning that the UK has a deal with the US by default. True story

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’ "

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with "

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

surely it is better no to pander to the pretence that there are no problems due to brexit, surely it is better to admit the monumental structural problems caused by brexit and set about mending them. brexaholics grow a spine and admit to yourself that you have problems.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with "

If only people had done this prior to 2016.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"surely it is better no to pander to the pretence that there are no problems due to brexit, surely it is better to admit the monumental structural problems caused by brexit and set about mending them. brexaholics grow a spine and admit to yourself that you have problems. "

I personally don't have problems. I will personally deal with any issues that arise for me as and when they arise. Brexit related or otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative."

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

If only people had done this prior to 2016."

Ye, makes you wonder why we bother with democracy and general elections eh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle. "

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

brexaholic denial syndrome rumbles on

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By *untwolancashireCouple  over a year ago

Preston/Lancaster


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative."

now I’m off to Greg’s to get a none vegan bacon roll with brown sauce & a latte x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives."

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option."

Of course it's an option.

If you want to sit and bemoan how shit life is that's your prerogative but don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

Of course it's an option.

If you want to sit and bemoan how shit life is that's your prerogative but don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

"

I don't expect anyone to feel the same way. People are entitled to ignore what's going on in the world around them.

Burying my head in the same and pretending everything is peachy with post brexit Britain, isn't for me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

Of course it's an option.

If you want to sit and bemoan how shit life is that's your prerogative but don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

I don't expect anyone to feel the same way. People are entitled to ignore what's going on in the world around them.

Burying my head in the same and pretending everything is peachy with post brexit Britain, isn't for me. "

That's the thing. You see people who are positive and think they are burying their heads in the sand. It's just not the case.

Maybe those very people feel positive that they can navigate their way through whatever comes next. It's all about mindset. And mine isn't for changing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

Did these people take into account Emma's spit drenched friend? They might be bringing in over £45 billion in the next two years to balance this out.

I hate to burst Emma’s bubble but I have ‘2 friends’ who both voted leave and told me this morning that Brexit is a shit sandwich and they wished they had voted remain, this is a true story "

im pretty sure there are people on both sides that now wished they had voted the other way. but we have left I work in transport and can tell you some horrible things but can also tell you some marvelous ones as well some lose some win.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option."

You (few) all apparently knew the shit storm of "project fear" was coming so why all the bitching about it, get on and live with what the majority wanted. Long live democracy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

Of course it's an option.

If you want to sit and bemoan how shit life is that's your prerogative but don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

I don't expect anyone to feel the same way. People are entitled to ignore what's going on in the world around them.

Burying my head in the same and pretending everything is peachy with post brexit Britain, isn't for me.

That's the thing. You see people who are positive and think they are burying their heads in the sand. It's just not the case.

Maybe those very people feel positive that they can navigate their way through whatever comes next. It's all about mindset. And mine isn't for changing"

Positive attitude is great. But being positive about something as negative as brexit, just seems like you're advocating for apathy.

Which is not what I think we need in this country. We need people who care about what's going on, who are paying attention so we can avoid voting ourselves into things like brexit, then having these kinda weird conversations about being positive about negative things that could have been avoided.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

You (few) all apparently knew the shit storm of "project fear" was coming so why all the bitching about it, get on and live with what the majority wanted. Long live democracy"

Long live the corruption of democracy through lies, propaganda, misinformation and illegal spending.

Maybe we should have a vote for double brexit. Where the Tories send henchmen round everyone's houses to shake us all down for some more cash. Only to us common folk though. Obvs.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

I have a brexit question.

Do people think boris and his pals had a post Brexit plan?

Did they know what was going to happen once we left?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

now I’m off to Greg’s to get a none vegan bacon roll with brown sauce & a latte x"

a very good idea (except for the brown sauce. Bacon roll is red sauce, sausage buttie is hp)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have a brexit question.

Do people think boris and his pals had a post Brexit plan?

Did they know what was going to happen once we left?"

1. Yes, to get rich from disaster Capitalism, the tanking of the pound, and to continue to avoid paying taxes.

2. I don't think they cared enough to think about the consequences.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

Of course it's an option.

If you want to sit and bemoan how shit life is that's your prerogative but don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

I don't expect anyone to feel the same way. People are entitled to ignore what's going on in the world around them.

Burying my head in the same and pretending everything is peachy with post brexit Britain, isn't for me.

That's the thing. You see people who are positive and think they are burying their heads in the sand. It's just not the case.

Maybe those very people feel positive that they can navigate their way through whatever comes next. It's all about mindset. And mine isn't for changing

Positive attitude is great. But being positive about something as negative as brexit, just seems like you're advocating for apathy.

Which is not what I think we need in this country. We need people who care about what's going on, who are paying attention so we can avoid voting ourselves into things like brexit, then having these kinda weird conversations about being positive about negative things that could have been avoided. "

There is negative things that happen in all walks of life every day of the week. If we didn't have the positivity to overcome those things we wouldn't even have a society to be able to discuss said things.

I certainly advocate for apathy, I take what happens and deal with it. That doesn't mean certain things don't for a short period make me feel any of the emotions linked to apathy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

now I’m off to Greg’s to get a none vegan bacon roll with brown sauce & a latte x

a very good idea (except for the brown sauce. Bacon roll is red sauce, sausage buttie is hp) "

Brown sauce on a bacon roll. FFS

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

You (few) all apparently knew the shit storm of "project fear" was coming so why all the bitching about it, get on and live with what the majority wanted. Long live democracy

Long live the corruption of democracy through lies, propaganda, misinformation and illegal spending.

Maybe we should have a vote for double brexit. Where the Tories send henchmen round everyone's houses to shake us all down for some more cash. Only to us common folk though. Obvs. "

"Only to us common folk though. Obvs." The great unwashed don't deserve consideration

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"I have a brexit question.

Do people think boris and his pals had a post Brexit plan?

Did they know what was going to happen once we left?"

No & No

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

Of course it's an option.

If you want to sit and bemoan how shit life is that's your prerogative but don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

I don't expect anyone to feel the same way. People are entitled to ignore what's going on in the world around them.

Burying my head in the same and pretending everything is peachy with post brexit Britain, isn't for me.

That's the thing. You see people who are positive and think they are burying their heads in the sand. It's just not the case.

Maybe those very people feel positive that they can navigate their way through whatever comes next. It's all about mindset. And mine isn't for changing

Positive attitude is great. But being positive about something as negative as brexit, just seems like you're advocating for apathy.

Which is not what I think we need in this country. We need people who care about what's going on, who are paying attention so we can avoid voting ourselves into things like brexit, then having these kinda weird conversations about being positive about negative things that could have been avoided.

There is negative things that happen in all walks of life every day of the week. If we didn't have the positivity to overcome those things we wouldn't even have a society to be able to discuss said things.

I certainly advocate for apathy, I take what happens and deal with it. That doesn't mean certain things don't for a short period make me feel any of the emotions linked to apathy"

Then we've simply reached a point where we can agree to disagree.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I have a brexit question.

Do people think boris and his pals had a post Brexit plan?

Did they know what was going to happen once we left?

No & No "

Well that's reassuring

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

So the pro brexit argument is now.

"Yes we know it's s bag of shit. But you should be feeling positive about it anyway".

Interesting angle.

You're perspective is wrong. It's not a pro brexit argument. It's a life statement. We all play the cards we are dealt, there's no point sitting around looking at negatives.

Some people voted to throw away the aces and pick up the low value cards. Not just their aces, but these were cards from our communal pack.(to expand on you card metaphor). Plenty of us said "don't do that, it's a terrible idea".

We were told, "that's just project fear".

Then as project fear becomes reality. We're told "just be positive about it".

If you think there is no point in looking at the negatives, that's fine. But for people who want to be aware of what's going on in post brexit Britain. That's not really an option.

Of course it's an option.

If you want to sit and bemoan how shit life is that's your prerogative but don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

I don't expect anyone to feel the same way. People are entitled to ignore what's going on in the world around them.

Burying my head in the same and pretending everything is peachy with post brexit Britain, isn't for me.

That's the thing. You see people who are positive and think they are burying their heads in the sand. It's just not the case.

Maybe those very people feel positive that they can navigate their way through whatever comes next. It's all about mindset. And mine isn't for changing

Positive attitude is great. But being positive about something as negative as brexit, just seems like you're advocating for apathy.

Which is not what I think we need in this country. We need people who care about what's going on, who are paying attention so we can avoid voting ourselves into things like brexit, then having these kinda weird conversations about being positive about negative things that could have been avoided.

There is negative things that happen in all walks of life every day of the week. If we didn't have the positivity to overcome those things we wouldn't even have a society to be able to discuss said things.

I certainly advocate for apathy, I take what happens and deal with it. That doesn't mean certain things don't for a short period make me feel any of the emotions linked to apathy

Then we've simply reached a point where we can agree to disagree.

"

I missed a key word their I certainly dont advocate for apathy. Hopefully that made sense by what followed.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

now I’m off to Greg’s to get a none vegan bacon roll with brown sauce & a latte x

a very good idea (except for the brown sauce. Bacon roll is red sauce, sausage buttie is hp) "

And that from a man whose countrymen deep fry mars bars

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

now I’m off to Greg’s to get a none vegan bacon roll with brown sauce & a latte x

a very good idea (except for the brown sauce. Bacon roll is red sauce, sausage buttie is hp)

Brown sauce on a bacon roll. FFS

"

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"I have a brexit question.

Do people think boris and his pals had a post Brexit plan?

Did they know what was going to happen once we left?

No & No

Well that's reassuring "

You wanted reassurance, ok. Yes there there everything will be fine.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

This is the correct message, life is short, be positive.

No one ever achieved anything by being negative.

now I’m off to Greg’s to get a none vegan bacon roll with brown sauce & a latte x

a very good idea (except for the brown sauce. Bacon roll is red sauce, sausage buttie is hp)

And that from a man whose countrymen deep fry mars bars "

A very underrated delicacy ... you haven’t lived until you have had one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Meanwhile 5 million EU citizens apply to remain in the UK post Brexit. There are obviously a lot of people who do feel positive

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Meanwhile 5 million EU citizens apply to remain in the UK post Brexit. There are obviously a lot of people who do feel positive "

Not being forced to leave your home. A brexit benefit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Meanwhile 5 million EU citizens apply to remain in the UK post Brexit. There are obviously a lot of people who do feel positive

Not being forced to leave your home. A brexit benefit. "

Err no, they are choosing to stay because they are positive about the country post Brexit. Try it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Meanwhile 5 million EU citizens apply to remain in the UK post Brexit. There are obviously a lot of people who do feel positive

Not being forced to leave your home. A brexit benefit.

Err no, they are choosing to stay because they are positive about the country post Brexit. Try it "

Try making assumptions about what 5 million people would think if they had a hive mind?

Okay....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with "

That is true, I think we have reached the point where Brexit is no longer accepted as being a good thing for the country but something we have to endure, live with, adapt to etc etc .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning "

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

That is true, I think we have reached the point where Brexit is no longer accepted as being a good thing for the country but something we have to endure, live with, adapt to etc etc . "

Its amazing how quickly its moved from sunny uplands to lets make the most of it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E"

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

That is true, I think we have reached the point where Brexit is no longer accepted as being a good thing for the country but something we have to endure, live with, adapt to etc etc .

Its amazing how quickly its moved from sunny uplands to lets make the most of it."

Yep, why weren’t all these positive , get it done, we will adapt type of people around when we were in the EU?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

That is true, I think we have reached the point where Brexit is no longer accepted as being a good thing for the country but something we have to endure, live with, adapt to etc etc . "

Yes, this is probably right

Hang in there, your rosewood chairs will be with you soon enough, then you can get on and enjoy them in your home

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

That is true, I think we have reached the point where Brexit is no longer accepted as being a good thing for the country but something we have to endure, live with, adapt to etc etc .

Yes, this is probably right

Hang in there, your rosewood chairs will be with you soon enough, then you can get on and enjoy them in your home "

It is only a minor inconvenience, nothing that worries me

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning "

There’s a delicious irony in Brussels making up some Brexit Bad figures for the next couple of years as it tears itself apart over its own administrative failings.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

There’s a delicious irony in Brussels making up some Brexit Bad figures for the next couple of years as it tears itself apart over its own administrative failings."

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E"

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

There’s a delicious irony in Brussels making up some Brexit Bad figures for the next couple of years as it tears itself apart over its own administrative failings."

"Brussels" are making the news outlets in the UK report on all the business lost, businesses closing and the jobs lost?

This news is absolutely shocking (if true).

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be."

None of that’s true. We held all the cards and finally played them properly once the doomsters and traitors left the room. And William Rees-Mogg does not have an office in Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/22/jacob-rees-mogg-second-irish-fund-scm

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

None of that’s true. We held all the cards and finally played them properly once the doomsters and traitors left the room. And William Rees-Mogg does not have an office in Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/22/jacob-rees-mogg-second-irish-fund-scm"

You are wrong. Consistently.

Somerset capital management ( which he co founded) has TWO offices in Ireland https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-scm-ireland-investment-fund-conservative-mp-a8461021.html

All the cards?

Presumably Mr Bun the Baker, a Pokémon Pikachu and an Italia 90 card.

Try again.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

None of that’s true. We held all the cards and finally played them properly once the doomsters and traitors left the room. And William Rees-Mogg does not have an office in Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/22/jacob-rees-mogg-second-irish-fund-scm

You are wrong. Consistently.

Somerset capital management ( which he co founded) has TWO offices in Ireland https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-scm-ireland-investment-fund-conservative-mp-a8461021.html

All the cards?

Presumably Mr Bun the Baker, a Pokémon Pikachu and an Italia 90 card.

Try again."

I can’t really help you with reading comprehension. There are two FUNDS registered in Ireland. There are no OFFICES in Ireland.

FUNDS not equal OFFICES.

I have a building society account in Coventry. I have never been to Coventry. I have no OFFICE there.

Please withdraw your remarks and apologise, thanks.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

None of that’s true. We held all the cards and finally played them properly once the doomsters and traitors left the room. And William Rees-Mogg does not have an office in Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/22/jacob-rees-mogg-second-irish-fund-scm

You are wrong. Consistently.

Somerset capital management ( which he co founded) has TWO offices in Ireland https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-scm-ireland-investment-fund-conservative-mp-a8461021.html

All the cards?

Presumably Mr Bun the Baker, a Pokémon Pikachu and an Italia 90 card.

Try again.

I can’t really help you with reading comprehension. There are two FUNDS registered in Ireland. There are no OFFICES in Ireland.

FUNDS not equal OFFICES.

I have a building society account in Coventry. I have never been to Coventry. I have no OFFICE there.

Please withdraw your remarks and apologise, thanks."

No I will not withdraw them.

He's running a business from Ireland. How patriotic.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg."

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K. "

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

None of that’s true. We held all the cards and finally played them properly once the doomsters and traitors left the room. And William Rees-Mogg does not have an office in Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/22/jacob-rees-mogg-second-irish-fund-scm

You are wrong. Consistently.

Somerset capital management ( which he co founded) has TWO offices in Ireland https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-scm-ireland-investment-fund-conservative-mp-a8461021.html

All the cards?

Presumably Mr Bun the Baker, a Pokémon Pikachu and an Italia 90 card.

Try again.

I can’t really help you with reading comprehension. There are two FUNDS registered in Ireland. There are no OFFICES in Ireland.

FUNDS not equal OFFICES.

I have a building society account in Coventry. I have never been to Coventry. I have no OFFICE there.

Please withdraw your remarks and apologise, thanks.

No I will not withdraw them.

He's running a business from Ireland. How patriotic.

"

When someone resorts to trying to "win" by using semantics, they've lost the argument.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005."

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


" Sit and moan as OP does or get on with life and be positive even with covid about

Something for everyone to think about

You believe Emma’s ‘story’

As much as I believe the rest of the other stuff posted in here.

Life is short - make the most of it and be positive - you don’t know when your time is up.

Sounds a reasonable message to agree with

That is true, I think we have reached the point where Brexit is no longer accepted as being a good thing for the country but something we have to endure, live with, adapt to etc etc . "

It was always going to be that way for the remainers as with every vote which goes against what people want.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement."

well said

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement."

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

There’s a delicious irony in Brussels making up some Brexit Bad figures for the next couple of years as it tears itself apart over its own administrative failings.

"Brussels" are making the news outlets in the UK report on all the business lost, businesses closing and the jobs lost?

This news is absolutely shocking (if true). "

Let's be honest if it was true it would help them to keep the EU stable and make other members think twice before leaving

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?"

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?"

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?"

Good swerve, not answering the question

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question "

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?"

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took."

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?"

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk."

How many people, given the choice and opportunity, would rather try to live on benefits than work ?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

"

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

There’s a delicious irony in Brussels making up some Brexit Bad figures for the next couple of years as it tears itself apart over its own administrative failings.

"Brussels" are making the news outlets in the UK report on all the business lost, businesses closing and the jobs lost?

This news is absolutely shocking (if true).

Let's be honest if it was true it would help them to keep the EU stable and make other members think twice before leaving"

So the EU are looking out for what's in the best interest EU countries.

This sounds great. How can we get in on this?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk."

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse "

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do."

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure"

The gap is nowhere near as extreme as here.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?"

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra."

Who is this "they'exactly?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

The gap is nowhere near as extreme as here."

You need to get out more, starving is starving!

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?"

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure"

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra.

Who is this "they'exactly?"

Well you define em, you started this about the people in poverty

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra.

Who is this "they'exactly?

Well you define em, you started this about the people in poverty"

Completely swerved the question

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress."

Why would you think that? They have had the devolved ability to do something about it - 14 years and counting . Independence, or lack of it, isnt stopping them doing something about it

Manchester isn’t independent of the U.K. and yet their Labour council has been able to do something positive, and in only 4 years .

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse "

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra.

Who is this "they'exactly?

Well you define em, you started this about the people in poverty

Completely swerved the question "

You stated the people in poverty so tell me, who is it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children"

O dear,

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children"

They do mostly

But if they are struggling and out of work we are supposed to have a welfare system,that we all pay into,which will support them.

Or do you think they should starve to death?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra.

Who is this "they'exactly?

Well you define em, you started this about the people in poverty

Completely swerved the question

You stated the people in poverty so tell me, who is it?"

There were 4.2 million children living in poverty in the UK in 2018-19. That's 30 per cent of children, or nine in a classroom of 30.1. 44 per cent of children living in lone-parent families are in poverty.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra.

Who is this "they'exactly?

Well you define em, you started this about the people in poverty

Completely swerved the question

You stated the people in poverty so tell me, who is it?"

No ,you started banging on about people getting handouts.

I asked you who "they'were

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear, "

Willing to be enlightened ?

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’? "

It really doesn't matter what I think. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Anyone who states categorically what will or won't happen is just guessing. It's a nonsense.

Next time someone tells you categorically what will happen, ask them for the winning lottery numbers.

E

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Well apparently the snp are expected too?

Good swerve, not answering the question

No..in capitalism you are always going to have inequality.

However you can either bring in measures to reduce it..it actively widen it.

It doesn't take a genius to see what path we have took.

If you have a system as in UK you can never reduce it, because the rich just get richer the poor don't have less money, they just want the money to do more than it's worth. That's the problem with people sitting around waiting to be hand fed form the government.

And before you harp on about the extremes and the real needy i'm not talking about those folk.

The poor dont have less money?

I think you find they do.

Less money than what, what they had the week before, no, prices just rise and they expect someone to hand out the extra.

Who is this "they'exactly?

Well you define em, you started this about the people in poverty

Completely swerved the question

You stated the people in poverty so tell me, who is it?

No ,you started banging on about people getting handouts.

I asked you who "they'were"

Kiss kiss You started this not me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

"

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress.

Why would you think that? They have had the devolved ability to do something about it - 14 years and counting . Independence, or lack of it, isnt stopping them doing something about it

Manchester isn’t independent of the U.K. and yet their Labour council has been able to do something positive, and in only 4 years .

"

I suspect gmp' has been given a degree of autonomy by central gmnt and are addressing the issues of poverty which have been caused by a decade of austerity.

Which is probally why the SNP wants to go it alone.

And last time I looked the majority of Scots agreed.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK "

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’?

It really doesn't matter what I think. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Anyone who states categorically what will or won't happen is just guessing. It's a nonsense.

Next time someone tells you categorically what will happen, ask them for the winning lottery numbers.

E"

Really, so you can’t use facts, experts, data, analysts etc etc to predict what will happen? You live in a day to day world where nothing can be predicted? The weather forecast is a complete waste of time then?

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be."

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant"

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’?

It really doesn't matter what I think. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Anyone who states categorically what will or won't happen is just guessing. It's a nonsense.

Next time someone tells you categorically what will happen, ask them for the winning lottery numbers.

E

Really, so you can’t use facts, experts, data, analysts etc etc to predict what will happen? You live in a day to day world where nothing can be predicted? The weather forecast is a complete waste of time then? "

Where i live the weather forecast is a complete waste of time, right again

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E "

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused? "

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?"

The NHS is a pretty good, close to home example of a socialist policy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’?

It really doesn't matter what I think. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Anyone who states categorically what will or won't happen is just guessing. It's a nonsense.

Next time someone tells you categorically what will happen, ask them for the winning lottery numbers.

E

Really, so you can’t use facts, experts, data, analysts etc etc to predict what will happen? You live in a day to day world where nothing can be predicted? The weather forecast is a complete waste of time then?

Where i live the weather forecast is a complete waste of time, right again "

I was in Japan in 2019, they were able to ‘predict ‘ with accuracy when and where a typhoon would hit . In your world they should have just let it be , just waited to see what happened and let thousands die

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress.

Why would you think that? They have had the devolved ability to do something about it - 14 years and counting . Independence, or lack of it, isnt stopping them doing something about it

Manchester isn’t independent of the U.K. and yet their Labour council has been able to do something positive, and in only 4 years .

I suspect gmp' has been given a degree of autonomy by central gmnt and are addressing the issues of poverty which have been caused by a decade of austerity.

Which is probally why the SNP wants to go it alone.

And last time I looked the majority of Scots agreed."

“Going it alone” doesn’t change anything !

It’s their job now, they have the power, and has been like this for the last 14 years !

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see, "

Let's not mix up the voters who wanted to leave even without a deal, with the politicians who wanted to appeaser the remainers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting "

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’?

It really doesn't matter what I think. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Anyone who states categorically what will or won't happen is just guessing. It's a nonsense.

Next time someone tells you categorically what will happen, ask them for the winning lottery numbers.

E

Really, so you can’t use facts, experts, data, analysts etc etc to predict what will happen? You live in a day to day world where nothing can be predicted? The weather forecast is a complete waste of time then?

Where i live the weather forecast is a complete waste of time, right again

I was in Japan in 2019, they were able to ‘predict ‘ with accuracy when and where a typhoon would hit . In your world they should have just let it be , just waited to see what happened and let thousands die "

Wish i lived in Japan, why'd ya leave if everything was NOT Brexit?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Let's not mix up the voters who wanted to leave even without a deal, with the politicians who wanted to appeaser the remainers"

Assuming that more than a handful of extremists wanted to leave with no deal, back in 2016 when they voted. Is a huge assumption, and goes against everything that the leavers were all saying at the time.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

None of that’s true. We held all the cards and finally played them properly once the doomsters and traitors left the room. And William Rees-Mogg does not have an office in Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/22/jacob-rees-mogg-second-irish-fund-scm

You are wrong. Consistently.

Somerset capital management ( which he co founded) has TWO offices in Ireland https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-scm-ireland-investment-fund-conservative-mp-a8461021.html

All the cards?

Presumably Mr Bun the Baker, a Pokémon Pikachu and an Italia 90 card.

Try again.

I can’t really help you with reading comprehension. There are two FUNDS registered in Ireland. There are no OFFICES in Ireland.

FUNDS not equal OFFICES.

I have a building society account in Coventry. I have never been to Coventry. I have no OFFICE there.

Please withdraw your remarks and apologise, thanks.

No I will not withdraw them.

He's running a business from Ireland. How patriotic.

When someone resorts to trying to "win" by using semantics, they've lost the argument. "

The term you need Chris is Fiscal Representation. The term Office can be a plaque on a wall alongside lots of others known as the registered office address.

This must have happened or there would be no benefit in being there.

Reece Mogg is laughing at fools who think he’s a person to recommend what’s good for you.

He us only interested or in fact aware of what’s good for him,

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress.

Why would you think that? They have had the devolved ability to do something about it - 14 years and counting . Independence, or lack of it, isnt stopping them doing something about it

Manchester isn’t independent of the U.K. and yet their Labour council has been able to do something positive, and in only 4 years .

I suspect gmp' has been given a degree of autonomy by central gmnt and are addressing the issues of poverty which have been caused by a decade of austerity.

Which is probally why the SNP wants to go it alone.

And last time I looked the majority of Scots agreed.

“Going it alone” doesn’t change anything !

It’s their job now, they have the power, and has been like this for the last 14 years !

"

So who do you think the Scottish people trust more to resolve the issue?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Let's not mix up the voters who wanted to leave even without a deal, with the politicians who wanted to appeaser the remainers"

Haha, I like this theory, I am glad remain voters were able to influence Boris into doing something he didn’t want to do, just shows how weak he is

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’?

It really doesn't matter what I think. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Anyone who states categorically what will or won't happen is just guessing. It's a nonsense.

Next time someone tells you categorically what will happen, ask them for the winning lottery numbers.

E

Really, so you can’t use facts, experts, data, analysts etc etc to predict what will happen? You live in a day to day world where nothing can be predicted? The weather forecast is a complete waste of time then? "

Michael Fish. Don't worry everyone, we're not going to get a hurricane......

Predict-verb- say or estimate that a specified thing will happen in the future or will be a consequence of something.

The very definition of guess.

You have access to every winning line in the lottery since the day it started.

With all that data at your disposal, please use those facts, analytics and data to predict the winning numbers for tonight.

Filters are down, just PM me your cast iron prediction, Ta.

E

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty "

I still say define "child poverty" To many of the "charities" in UK are just in it as a business

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

What do you think the ‘outcome will be’?

It really doesn't matter what I think. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Anyone who states categorically what will or won't happen is just guessing. It's a nonsense.

Next time someone tells you categorically what will happen, ask them for the winning lottery numbers.

E

Really, so you can’t use facts, experts, data, analysts etc etc to predict what will happen? You live in a day to day world where nothing can be predicted? The weather forecast is a complete waste of time then?

Where i live the weather forecast is a complete waste of time, right again

I was in Japan in 2019, they were able to ‘predict ‘ with accuracy when and where a typhoon would hit . In your world they should have just let it be , just waited to see what happened and let thousands die

Wish i lived in Japan, why'd ya leave if everything was NOT Brexit?"

I was on holiday, is everything ok?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Let's not mix up the voters who wanted to leave even without a deal, with the politicians who wanted to appeaser the remainers

Haha, I like this theory, I am glad remain voters were able to influence Boris into doing something he didn’t want to do, just shows how weak he is "

In his defence he is PM of UK not of the leavers he has a duty to all in UK

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty

I still say define "child poverty" To many of the "charities" in UK are just in it as a business "

Child

a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.

Poverty

Poverty is the state of not having enough material possessions or income for a person's basic needs. Poverty may include social, economic, and political elements. Absolute poverty is the complete lack of the means necessary to meet basic personal needs, such as food, clothing, and shelter

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see, "

Okeedokee, tell me categorically what is going to happen.

I'll wait........

E

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Let's not mix up the voters who wanted to leave even without a deal, with the politicians who wanted to appeaser the remainers

Haha, I like this theory, I am glad remain voters were able to influence Boris into doing something he didn’t want to do, just shows how weak he is

In his defence he is PM of UK not of the leavers he has a duty to all in UK"

Someone should tell him. He appears to think he's only representing corporations and the ultra wealthy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Let's not mix up the voters who wanted to leave even without a deal, with the politicians who wanted to appeaser the remainers

Haha, I like this theory, I am glad remain voters were able to influence Boris into doing something he didn’t want to do, just shows how weak he is

In his defence he is PM of UK not of the leavers he has a duty to all in UK"

Will of the people ???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get."

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty

I still say define "child poverty" To many of the "charities" in UK are just in it as a business

Child

a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.

Poverty

Poverty is the state of not having enough material possessions or income for a person's basic needs. Poverty may include social, economic, and political elements. Absolute poverty is the complete lack of the means necessary to meet basic personal needs, such as food, clothing, and shelter

"

You must take me for a leave voter, i asked for "child poverty" not child and poverty

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Okeedokee, tell me categorically what is going to happen.

I'll wait........

E"

I didn’t vote for it, you tell me what you voted for

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

And in regards the homeless,many of the sanctions such as evicting people from their homes has been frozen, which I'm fairly sure has contributed to the problem been temporarily resolved.

I also think more homeless people have been put up in accommodation.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Let's not mix up the voters who wanted to leave even without a deal, with the politicians who wanted to appeaser the remainers

Haha, I like this theory, I am glad remain voters were able to influence Boris into doing something he didn’t want to do, just shows how weak he is

In his defence he is PM of UK not of the leavers he has a duty to all in UK

Will of the people ??? "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Brexit trade deal will swipe around £45bn over two years from the UK economy, a Brussels analysis says – after Boris Johnson refused to carry out his own study.

And the economic damage will be more than four times greater than that suffered by the EU, from the putting up of daunting new barriers to cross-Channel trade.

The Christmas Eve agreement – hailed as “fantastic” by the prime minister – will cut UK output by about 2.25 per cent by the end of 2022 compared with EU membership, the analysis has found.

With annual gross domestic product (GDP) standing at around £2 trillion, such a loss would be equivalent to around £45bn over the next two years.

Keep on winning

A speculative analysis from Brussels?

The very people who've put every obstacle in the way they can to prevent us leaving?

Nope, they've got nothing to gain by spreading doom and gloom guesses about the cost to the UK.

No one knows what the outcome will be. No one on either side.

Speculation, guesswork and scare stories.

E

Much of that isn't true.

We could have walked out of the negotiations at any time. We didn't because we wanted what they have. We tried to negotiate, but we had very little to negotiate with.

The "speculation" was largely academic research.

As for what the outcome will be can I point you in the direction of Grease Smugg, who said we would be worse off for at least 50 years, before setting up an office in Dublin. He's pretty clear on what the outcome will be.

No, he's not clear on what the outcome will be. How the Hell can anyone know?

No one can definitively see into the future. They can speculate/guess. But that's all it is.

He's making an educated guess, nothing more.

E

And this is what Brexit has become. It’s gone from best ever deal, easiest deal, no down side to voters now stating they haven’t got a clue what will happen we all just have to wait and see,

Okeedokee, tell me categorically what is going to happen.

I'll wait........

E"

Brexit will be bad for the economy, there will be more red tape, there will be job losses, businesses closing, businesses upping sticks and moving to the EU etc.

All the stuff that was labelled "project fear".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty

I still say define "child poverty" To many of the "charities" in UK are just in it as a business

Child

a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.

Poverty

Poverty is the state of not having enough material possessions or income for a person's basic needs. Poverty may include social, economic, and political elements. Absolute poverty is the complete lack of the means necessary to meet basic personal needs, such as food, clothing, and shelter

You must take me for a leave voter, i asked for "child poverty" not child and poverty"

I will refer you to my other reply Debbie, I don’t have the time or the energy, if you don’t know what child poverty is then you obviously don’t care

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done "

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

"

A right wing government that adopted a socialist policy. Ye OK

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty

I still say define "child poverty" To many of the "charities" in UK are just in it as a business

Child

a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.

Poverty

Poverty is the state of not having enough material possessions or income for a person's basic needs. Poverty may include social, economic, and political elements. Absolute poverty is the complete lack of the means necessary to meet basic personal needs, such as food, clothing, and shelter

You must take me for a leave voter, i asked for "child poverty" not child and poverty

I will refer you to my other reply Debbie, I don’t have the time or the energy, if you don’t know what child poverty is then you obviously don’t care "

Au contrer as del boy would say, i asked cos i do care not just use it as a an argument winner

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

"

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty

I still say define "child poverty" To many of the "charities" in UK are just in it as a business

Child

a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.

Poverty

Poverty is the state of not having enough material possessions or income for a person's basic needs. Poverty may include social, economic, and political elements. Absolute poverty is the complete lack of the means necessary to meet basic personal needs, such as food, clothing, and shelter

You must take me for a leave voter, i asked for "child poverty" not child and poverty

I will refer you to my other reply Debbie, I don’t have the time or the energy, if you don’t know what child poverty is then you obviously don’t care

Au contrer as del boy would say, i asked cos i do care not just use it as a an argument winner"

That made no sense , what episode of Only Fools did Del Boy say ‘I asked cos i do care not just use it as an argument winner’ ?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

Is it possible to eradicate it, examples?

Poverty is very difficult to eradicate but it is less difficult to make it better rather than worse

Even in socialist and communist countries, poverty exists.

Go figure

Like I said, poverty is very difficult to eradicate and poverty levels especially child poverty is getting worse

"child poverty" define please?

As far as i know parents are supposed to look after their children

O dear,

Willing to be enlightened ?

I don’t have the time or the energy, google child poverty in the UK

Ah you listen to "debbie " from facebook, ok well she's not my friend, i'll have to stay ignorant

Who is ‘Debbie’ ? Is everything ok? You seem a bit confused?

Come on you know Debbie, Oracle Debbie, she's knows everyting about everyting

Nope, you seem to know her though, have you heard of

Action for children

The Big issue

CPAG

End child poverty

I still say define "child poverty" To many of the "charities" in UK are just in it as a business

Child

a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.

Poverty

Poverty is the state of not having enough material possessions or income for a person's basic needs. Poverty may include social, economic, and political elements. Absolute poverty is the complete lack of the means necessary to meet basic personal needs, such as food, clothing, and shelter

You must take me for a leave voter, i asked for "child poverty" not child and poverty

I will refer you to my other reply Debbie, I don’t have the time or the energy, if you don’t know what child poverty is then you obviously don’t care

Au contrer as del boy would say, i asked cos i do care not just use it as a an argument winner

That made no sense , what episode of Only Fools did Del Boy say ‘I asked cos i do care not just use it as an argument winner’ ? "

lol lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth"

Do you still live in a cave?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

A right wing government that adopted a socialist policy. Ye OK "

What..they arent right wing or it's not a socialist policy?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth

Do you still live in a cave? "

eh, eh, eh no slander i have a second cave as a garage for my mammoth, he pays rent of course

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth"

Right

So you dont think any sort of welfare should exist?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All this starvation while members of the EU. Why on earth did anyone, apart from the fat cats, vote to remain?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth

Right

So you dont think any sort of welfare should exist?"

You do have a habit of putting words into people's mouth, dunt ya?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"All this starvation while members of the EU. Why on earth did anyone, apart from the fat cats, vote to remain? "

I thought our taxes went to the gmnt.

Silly me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth

Do you still live in a cave?

eh, eh, eh no slander i have a second cave as a garage for my mammoth, he pays rent of course "

Ah, your posts are starting to make a bit more sense, I should have realised you weren’t being serious , especially when you said Boris was a socialist, you nearly had me going there

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth

Right

So you dont think any sort of welfare should exist?

You do have a habit of putting words into people's mouth, dunt ya?"

You said the state shouldnt have to pay for kids meals

Where should our taxes go exactly?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

It's been fun guys but the rugby is about to kick off, ciao

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"So the problem isnt those at the top making themselves richer and richer..its those dole scroungers?

Prove to me socialism works, where does it work?

The vaccine roll out was about socialist as you can get.

Finally you have had to admit that this government is not right wing. Well done

They are right wing.

They adopted a socialist policy which worked brilliantly.

Which must confuse the fuck out of dyed in the wool tories ,who normally see feeding hungry kids as socialism

If my kids where hungry I would feed em not wait for the government to do it, cos it's my role as a parent and has been since humans first walked this earth

Right

So you dont think any sort of welfare should exist?

You do have a habit of putting words into people's mouth, dunt ya?

You said the state shouldnt have to pay for kids meals

Where should our taxes go exactly?"

No I never said that either

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All this starvation while members of the EU. Why on earth did anyone, apart from the fat cats, vote to remain?

I thought our taxes went to the gmnt.

Silly me

"

And now who can they blame? If they don't spend it wisely and fairly they are out. Do you still not get it?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress.

Why would you think that? They have had the devolved ability to do something about it - 14 years and counting . Independence, or lack of it, isnt stopping them doing something about it

Manchester isn’t independent of the U.K. and yet their Labour council has been able to do something positive, and in only 4 years .

I suspect gmp' has been given a degree of autonomy by central gmnt and are addressing the issues of poverty which have been caused by a decade of austerity.

Which is probally why the SNP wants to go it alone.

And last time I looked the majority of Scots agreed.

“Going it alone” doesn’t change anything !

It’s their job now, they have the power, and has been like this for the last 14 years !

So who do you think the Scottish people trust more to resolve the issue?"

Looks like the majority of Scots don’t really care about it. Maybe seeing the photo of a 200person line for a soup kitchen will focus their thoughts or at very least lead them to ask different questions of their governments priorities

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress.

Why would you think that? They have had the devolved ability to do something about it - 14 years and counting . Independence, or lack of it, isnt stopping them doing something about it

Manchester isn’t independent of the U.K. and yet their Labour council has been able to do something positive, and in only 4 years .

I suspect gmp' has been given a degree of autonomy by central gmnt and are addressing the issues of poverty which have been caused by a decade of austerity.

Which is probally why the SNP wants to go it alone.

And last time I looked the majority of Scots agreed.

“Going it alone” doesn’t change anything !

It’s their job now, they have the power, and has been like this for the last 14 years !

So who do you think the Scottish people trust more to resolve the issue?

Looks like the majority of Scots don’t really care about it. Maybe seeing the photo of a 200person line for a soup kitchen will focus their thoughts or at very least lead them to ask different questions of their governments priorities

"

The cynic in me says the SNP can help the problem and know they can but don't because it will show that these things can be addressed while in the UK. If they gain independence then they will tackle it and hold it up as an example

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Slightly off topic but if anyone thinks we dont have inequality in this country, compare reece mogg smarmy fucking speech about porridge to the scenes at the Glasgow soup kitchen which were positively Victorian.

Much like reece mogg.

Yes, that’s what 14 years of SNP government has done to Scotland. Shameful that they spend the money in so many other ways, most of which are more to do with making the electorate think they would be better off independent from the U.K.

Yes I'm sure poverty didnt exist before 2005.

With devolved power SNP gov have done nothing to reduce it in the last 14 years, if anything it’s worse, so much so here’s a shocking photo to show the extent of the problem.

How many more years do you think they should wait before doing something about it, if anything, or is it more convenient to suggest “well there was poverty and homelessness before we came to power so we don’t need to do anything about it - other administrations before us didn’t tackle it, so we won’t”. Such a ridiculous statement.

Why haven't the tories eradicated poverty here?

I don’t know, is the photo you used to make a point showing the results of a Tory government?

Keeping with the positive, you should have pointed us to how much the Labour run Greater Manchester area have been able to dramatically reduce homelessness in the last 4 years.

Which makes the Glasgow photo all the more shocking . If a Labour council administration can make a difference during a Tory government, seriously what are the SNP doing to Scotland.

Mayne once they get independence they will see some progress.

Why would you think that? They have had the devolved ability to do something about it - 14 years and counting . Independence, or lack of it, isnt stopping them doing something about it

Manchester isn’t independent of the U.K. and yet their Labour council has been able to do something positive, and in only 4 years .

I suspect gmp' has been given a degree of autonomy by central gmnt and are addressing the issues of poverty which have been caused by a decade of austerity.

Which is probally why the SNP wants to go it alone.

And last time I looked the majority of Scots agreed.

“Going it alone” doesn’t change anything !

It’s their job now, they have the power, and has been like this for the last 14 years !

So who do you think the Scottish people trust more to resolve the issue?

Looks like the majority of Scots don’t really care about it. Maybe seeing the photo of a 200person line for a soup kitchen will focus their thoughts or at very least lead them to ask different questions of their governments priorities

"

Likewise people mustn't care about it in this country as we have enough problems of our own.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"All this starvation while members of the EU. Why on earth did anyone, apart from the fat cats, vote to remain?

I thought our taxes went to the gmnt.

Silly me

And now who can they blame? If they don't spend it wisely and fairly they are out. Do you still not get it? "

Who are you talking about?

The gmnt?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

"

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest."

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020."

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions "

You may think it's hilarious, but the rest of us are pissed off.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest."

Tax is collected by the U.K. government so your reference to EU is nonsense.it’s fuck all to do with the EU. So feel free to try and divert.

Tax avoidance in the U.K. is amongst the worst in the world and London accounts for 65% of the worlds avoidance. Again nothing to do with the EU so wind your indignant neck in ! I haven’t mentioned the EU in my post.

Seeing as you did for info the EU are attempting to stop tax avoidance and are trying to push legislation which will enable this to happen. The main reason for Brexit!

Please tell me what our government are doing to reign in this tax avoidance?

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions "

No they were voting to stop the mythical one million Turks arriving which was published by the rich tax avoiders who own those newspapers. Look up who owns the Mail and see how much personal tax he pays on his trust based in the Caribbean but he lives in tne U.K. .

The mail pays very little corporation tax in their U.K. sales but claim they pay all due tax based on their staffs PAYE.

We have been conned and basically mugged by our rich elite. Boris visited a very rich billionaire who supported his campaign after the referendum to celebrate the Russians non domicile race status .

So no the average person didn’t vote for saving their tax as they had no idea of the truth or real reason for Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions

No they were voting to stop the mythical one million Turks arriving which was published by the rich tax avoiders who own those newspapers. Look up who owns the Mail and see how much personal tax he pays on his trust based in the Caribbean but he lives in tne U.K. .

The mail pays very little corporation tax in their U.K. sales but claim they pay all due tax based on their staffs PAYE.

We have been conned and basically mugged by our rich elite. Boris visited a very rich billionaire who supported his campaign after the referendum to celebrate the Russians non domicile race status .

So no the average person didn’t vote for saving their tax as they had no idea of the truth or real reason for Brexit"

So you know more than the average person. Unbelievable

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

P.S. Most people I know voted for Brexit and I doubt that any of them have ever read the Daily Mail even once

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By *andy 1Couple  over a year ago

northeast


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest."

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions

No they were voting to stop the mythical one million Turks arriving which was published by the rich tax avoiders who own those newspapers. Look up who owns the Mail and see how much personal tax he pays on his trust based in the Caribbean but he lives in tne U.K. .

The mail pays very little corporation tax in their U.K. sales but claim they pay all due tax based on their staffs PAYE.

We have been conned and basically mugged by our rich elite. Boris visited a very rich billionaire who supported his campaign after the referendum to celebrate the Russians non domicile race status .

So no the average person didn’t vote for saving their tax as they had no idea of the truth or real reason for Brexit

So you know more than the average person. Unbelievable "

Feel free to believe the Mail and The Express if it makes you feel better .

I don’t want you to worry about reality

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions

No they were voting to stop the mythical one million Turks arriving which was published by the rich tax avoiders who own those newspapers. Look up who owns the Mail and see how much personal tax he pays on his trust based in the Caribbean but he lives in tne U.K. .

The mail pays very little corporation tax in their U.K. sales but claim they pay all due tax based on their staffs PAYE.

We have been conned and basically mugged by our rich elite. Boris visited a very rich billionaire who supported his campaign after the referendum to celebrate the Russians non domicile race status .

So no the average person didn’t vote for saving their tax as they had no idea of the truth or real reason for Brexit"

I looked it up and the Daily Mail is owned by the same people who own the Sunday Mail. DMTG, Who campaigned to remain

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"P.S. Most people I know voted for Brexit and I doubt that any of them have ever read the Daily Mail even once "

Good for you knowing people.

Ask them about how much they pay in tax and then show them how much a billionaire in London pays. Especially the owner of the Mail. I’m sure they will be happy with paying while he doesn’t. They must know their place .

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions

No they were voting to stop the mythical one million Turks arriving which was published by the rich tax avoiders who own those newspapers. Look up who owns the Mail and see how much personal tax he pays on his trust based in the Caribbean but he lives in tne U.K. .

The mail pays very little corporation tax in their U.K. sales but claim they pay all due tax based on their staffs PAYE.

We have been conned and basically mugged by our rich elite. Boris visited a very rich billionaire who supported his campaign after the referendum to celebrate the Russians non domicile race status .

So no the average person didn’t vote for saving their tax as they had no idea of the truth or real reason for Brexit

I looked it up and the Daily Mail is owned by the same people who own the Sunday Mail. DMTG, Who campaigned to remain "

Look at the ultimate owner which is based in the Caribbean. It is owned by a trust in the name of the guy living in Wiltshire tax free.

He claims non domicile through a French grandmother . .

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By *kstallionMan  over a year ago

milton keynes


"P.S. Most people I know voted for Brexit and I doubt that any of them have ever read the Daily Mail even once

Good for you knowing people.

Ask them about how much they pay in tax and then show them how much a billionaire in London pays. Especially the owner of the Mail. I’m sure they will be happy with paying while he doesn’t. They must know their place . "

Always amazing how remainers think they know why people voted to leave just to suit their narrow minded beliefs. Constantly blaming media outlets that report uncomfortable facts about the EU

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"The legally avoided tax not paid in London would house all the homeless rebuild most of our hospitals and provide twice as many teachers.

That’s right wing tax avoidance and a very big fuck off to the lower paid and less fortunate people of this country.

Yes there are scrounges and bums but look at the social media of spoilt children who are in effect scrounging off their parents and are in effect bums who create and contribute nothing.

Thankfully there are few on either side of the spectrum.

So ignore the rich and poor bums they will always exist.

Educate someone and give them an opportunity to work and be part of society.

Society for all does not exist . The divide is getting wider.

Wasn't all that "legally avoided tax" happening whilst in the EU what did they do about it?

It does not matter how wide the divide is, starvation is starvation no matter how wide it is and the EU did nothing. How remainers can quote the good the EU did for workers rights is a joke.

Many EU countries workers suffer far more than in UK, in fact EU countries believe brits are born in a high vis vest.

The EU clamping down on tax avoidance was one of the main drivers for brexit.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/anti-tax-avoidance-package/#:~:text=The%20amendment%20introduces%20rules%20that,the%20EU%20and%20third%20countries.&text=The%20newly%20agreed%20rules%20aim,set%20for%201%20January%202020.

Hilarious

All those working class people voting for Brexit to preserve their millions

No they were voting to stop the mythical one million Turks arriving which was published by the rich tax avoiders who own those newspapers. Look up who owns the Mail and see how much personal tax he pays on his trust based in the Caribbean but he lives in tne U.K. .

The mail pays very little corporation tax in their U.K. sales but claim they pay all due tax based on their staffs PAYE.

We have been conned and basically mugged by our rich elite. Boris visited a very rich billionaire who supported his campaign after the referendum to celebrate the Russians non domicile race status .

So no the average person didn’t vote for saving their tax as they had no idea of the truth or real reason for Brexit"

you loose the argument when you loose your temper when you cliam the average person had no idea of the truth or real reason for brexit you know why about your vote but no idea why 17.4 million voted leave mate

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