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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ambulance-parking-ticket-warden-tesco-12976410

So an ambulance got a ticket for stopping on double yellows while they went in for their drink.

Their reason for stopping there was because they had been on shift for 8 hours, does that mean anyone with a job who has been on shift for 8 hours can stop on double yellows to get their drink and food or is is just for people who work in the NHS?

Should they have parked in a bay ( or two if needed ) like we all have to?

It seems the ticket has been waived now, but is that the right thing to do?

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By *tirluvMan over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

My secret plan is to get everyone to convert their cars into ambulances

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By *abarellaWoman over a year ago

Warminster

Unless on an emergency call they should abide by parking laws.

They might be hero's but they are not above the law.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess you often see the papers and story hunters running features on police cars etc parking illegally for a few minutes.

I'm sure their supervisors will give them a dressing down, but if we can't cut a little slack to the emergency services going about their business then we've lost the plot a little? They shouldn't take liberties but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?"

Can I ask why?

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"My secret plan is to get everyone to convert their cars into ambulances

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By *utie91Woman over a year ago

Hitchin

It’s normally because either the ambulance doesn’t actually fit into a space. Or we don’t have time to faf about finding a parking space miles away then walking to the shop. Chances are if we did that we would get another job before even making to the shop.

Would you rather us stop for 2 mins to grab a quick drink or stop for 10mins delaying your ambulance response?

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By *ig1gaz1Man over a year ago

bradford

if they was on duty and getting drinks before they got called out again

the answer would be no

if they was at end of there shift or at end of there shift it should be like everyone else

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By *m3232Man over a year ago

maidenhead

Tech yes they are in the wrong but I definitely think they should be allowed to park like that to get there drink. Same goes for fire brigades and possibly police but they can be arses lol.

These people protect and help us so they should be allowed to do that kind of thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?"

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Truth is this would be a non story if it was a builders van? Most people respect their role is unique and cutting a little slack shows a little appreciation? I support them.

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By *good-being-badMan over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Are ambulances crown vehicles ?

If so I thought crown warranted vehicles couldn't be issued with parking tickets.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ambulance-parking-ticket-warden-tesco-12976410

So an ambulance got a ticket for stopping on double yellows while they went in for their drink.

Should they have parked in a bay ( or two if needed ) like we all have to?

It seems the ticket has been waived now, but is that the right thing to do?"

Surely if they'd taken 2 bays then they still would've got a ticket!

My mum is disabled, she took 2 parking spaces as all disabled bays were taken and bought two tickets for each space but still got a ticket because she'd gone over the line! My mum isn't one to argue so paid her fine

Sometimes these people are jobsworths

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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Or we don’t have time to faf about finding a parking space miles away then walking to the shop.

Parking spaces are never miles away at supermarkets

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?"

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives? "

So parking in a bay would stop them doing that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

So parking in a bay would stop them doing that?"

Potentially yes

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By *abarellaWoman over a year ago

Warminster

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives? "

But they know what the job entails so why not take food and drink on shift with them?

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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Surely if they'd taken 2 bays then they still would've got a ticket!

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Yeah they probably would come to think of it but may have discretion used by the warden if they were at least in a bay as they wouldn't fit into just the one?

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By *good-being-badMan over a year ago

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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives? "

They could always have a Packed lunch instead

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

So parking in a bay would stop them doing that?

Potentially yes"

Why?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan over a year ago

"Tech yes they are in the wrong but I definitely think they should be allowed to park like that to get there drink. Same goes for fire brigades and possibly police but they can be arses lol.

These people protect and help us so they should be allowed to do that kind of thing. "

This,

Maybe not the police cars as they could easily fit in a car bay and don't always have to respond straight away when a call comes in

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s normally because either the ambulance doesn’t actually fit into a space. Or we don’t have time to faf about finding a parking space miles away then walking to the shop. Chances are if we did that we would get another job before even making to the shop.

Would you rather us stop for 2 mins to grab a quick drink or stop for 10mins delaying your ambulance response?

That makes sense.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life"

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ambulance-parking-ticket-warden-tesco-12976410

So an ambulance got a ticket for stopping on double yellows while they went in for their drink.

Should they have parked in a bay ( or two if needed ) like we all have to?

It seems the ticket has been waived now, but is that the right thing to do?"
Nope they parked illegally they are responsible people and should be accountable unless they've just saved my life

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

But they know what the job entails so why not take food and drink on shift with them? "

No they don’t know what it entails, and why should they take food and drink in a cab in this weather that can get hot and humid leaving their food rank and therefore not get fresh food and cold/hot drinks?

These guys don’t know one call from the next, nor how busy they are going to be, and can work ridiculously late no hours before having even the sniff of an opportunity to get food.

Personally I’d rather a life saver save a few minutes response time, and be refreshed and feel well before responding to me or a loved one to save life for the sake of a bloody parking ticket!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all"

Are you joking???

Dear lord

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?"

There was a bay next to where they parked

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

True and I haven't read the full story, but my example was based on pulling up outside a sandwich shop.

I guess the crews deserve a little slack is my opinion. We can argue it black and white, but careful what we wish for.

Those that protect us can apply the same logic back if we treat them like that?

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

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By *utie91Woman over a year ago

Hitchin

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

But they know what the job entails so why not take food and drink on shift with them? "

Because most of us don’t actually have time between shifts to sort anything out. We only get 11hrs off so we spend most of it in bed because the shifts are exhausting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ultimately they don't have an excuse if that answers your question OP?

I guess we as the public need to decide if we think certain roles are cut a little slack when on day to day business?

If you were the parking attendant would you have booked them?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally I think you have to be a complete arse of a human being to stick a ticket on an ambulance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )"

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

True and I haven't read the full story, but my example was based on pulling up outside a sandwich shop.

I guess the crews deserve a little slack is my opinion. We can argue it black and white, but careful what we wish for.

Those that protect us can apply the same logic back if we treat them like that? "

It was in a supermarket with bays next to where they parked.

So they can apply logic of we won't treat you well if you we get a ticket?

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By *utie91Woman over a year ago

Hitchin

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )"

If people stopped calling for stupid things then we would have more time for Luxuarys like parking in a parking space and maybe even getting to eat our lunch sometimes before going to your cut finger or sprained ankle than don’t even need an ambulance

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo "

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet. "

It isn’t personal at all, but I do think you are deliberately trying to troll and flame

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo "

I think you did, you said they need to be "be dispatched immediately" If they are not with the ambulance be that going for a pee or into a shop they can't be dispatched immediately.

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

True and I haven't read the full story, but my example was based on pulling up outside a sandwich shop.

I guess the crews deserve a little slack is my opinion. We can argue it black and white, but careful what we wish for.

Those that protect us can apply the same logic back if we treat them like that?

It was in a supermarket with bays next to where they parked.

So they can apply logic of we won't treat you well if you we get a ticket?

No. I probably articulated that badly and I'm confident they wouldn't.

But if they know they'll have the book thrown at them for every minor infringement, they may insist on never bending rules to get the job done?

Emergency services generally just get the job done the best they can.

But as I stated above in black and white terms they have no excuse lawfully.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet.

It isn’t personal at all, but I do think you are deliberately trying to troll and flame"

Or ask questions for the debate? Maybe ignore the thread if you are not happy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

I think you did, you said they need to be "be dispatched immediately" If they are not with the ambulance be that going for a pee or into a shop they can't be dispatched immediately.

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet."

Not my quote, do keep up ??

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By *xtrafun4youMan over a year ago

Dunstable

"Unless on an emergency call they should abide by parking laws.

They might be hero's but they are not above the law. "

I agree.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet.

It isn’t personal at all, but I do think you are deliberately trying to troll and flame

Or ask questions for the debate? Maybe ignore the thread if you are not happy"

I won’t ignore a thread because one person is being deliberately contentious, but I’ll ignore your comments happily now it’s clear what your doing

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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No. I probably articulated that badly and I'm confident they wouldn't.

But if they know they'll have the book thrown at them for every minor infringement, they may insist on never bending rules to get the job done?

Emergency services generally just get the job done the best they can.

But as I stated above in black and white terms they have no excuse lawfully."

Totally get what you are saying now and I agree with everything you have said.

For me , yes they could have parked in a disabled bay or two bays that were behind them but as someone else pointed out they would have probably got a ticket for that anyway, but as much as I think that, I don't think making excuses of why they couldn't park in a bay is a good thing either

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"Personally I think you have to be a complete arse of a human being to stick a ticket on an ambulance. "

He was just doing what he had been told to do.

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By *inkerbell67Woman over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Paramedics hardly get time for a break ,you wouldnt want them to come to dear old granny and collapse with dehydration after working 8hrs with out a drink or food ,try wearing there uniform and rubber gloves and heavy shoes in this heat ,.some people have no idea whats it like to work on the front line in this heat ,i done it for 14 years on a ward were we were not aloud to have a cold drink unless it was our break ,and no air conditioning on the ward ,and windows that hardly opened and wearing plastic aprons and gloves ..try working like that befor you start moaning....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A bit of discression wouldn't go a miss.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally I think you have to be a complete arse of a human being to stick a ticket on an ambulance.

He was just doing what he had been told to do."

I agree, I’m not sure the guy who isssues the ticket should be vilified, it was a judgment call, some would do it, others wouldn’t.

Without understanding him and why he issued the ticket we shouldn’t judge. But either way, he was doing his job to the letter.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's a lot of comments on the thread like, depends if they were on duty or not or if they were at the end of their shift.

I would imagine that if they have the ambulance with them, they are on duty! Even if the shift is over, until they hand the ambulance over to the next shift at the station, if a call comes in, they will respond. They aren't going to say, look, I know we still have the ambulance but, our shift is over now. We're on our way back to base, we'll be ten minutes then the next shift can attend. I hope not anyway!

For that reason, I don't mind where they park if they have a quiet moment and it improves response times. As long as you can get a car past on the road or a pushchair/mobility scooter past on the pavement there isn't a problem.

Emergency vehicles aren't supposed to run red lights either, I think, but, I don't mind that also!

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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I can't say I have ever done that so your disgust is aimed at the wrong person.

It would be good for people to not take comments personally, it is just a discussion

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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So I am guessing the majority think the ticket being sqaushed was the right thing?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So I am guessing the majority think the ticket being sqaushed was the right thing?"

Absolutely

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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squashed*

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Truth is this would be a non story if it was a builders van? Most people respect their role is unique and cutting a little slack shows a little appreciation? I support them."

Exactly my thoughts

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"So I am guessing the majority think the ticket being sqaushed was the right thing?"

No. I was a community care worker. If I parked on double yellows to get a drink or do a client call I got a ticket. Where I was working at the time there was no parking. The local pub complained about people parking on the street, so we all got tickets despite having meals delivery or carer on call signs in our cars. Part of the reason I gave up the job as it doesn't pay enough to cover things like that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't say I have ever done that so your disgust is aimed at the wrong person.

It would be good for people to not take comments personally, it is just a discussion

I agree...I know you can fight your own argument but!

I personally don't think an issue should have been made out of their parking. But legally they had no excuse and no one can give a factually based argument to the contrary?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it would depend on the circumstances. I appreciate they won't fit in normal spaces so if there are no 2 spaces available close to the shop and parking illegally would save significant time then yes it should be allowed.

In this case it seems there were spaces available they could have used so should have. Double yellow lines are there to prevent danger and restrictions of the road so should be a last resort.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Saw this video today. The guy was a prick. Hope he doesn't need an ambulance one day. Whatever happened to a bit of respect for the police...fire and ambulance service. Fuckin jobs worth x

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By *hips n FursMan over a year ago

Huddersfield

Wouldn't common sense of been better where one stays with the ambulance,while the other nipped into the shop to get food and drinks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

On shift, all emergency services should be able to park where they like to get food and drink, obviously without obstructing the road, they can get called any minute and time is wasted going round in circles in a car park looking for a wide enough space, plus they need to have a quick getaway if called on a job. They are saving lives ffs!!

Every minute counts for them so if they need to park on double yellows on shift to save running across a car park between traffic I'm all for it. If the moaners were the ones waiting for said ambulance I think your view would be different!

Respect to the ambos.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Would you rather us stop for 2 mins to grab a quick drink or stop for 10mins delaying your ambulance response?

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was going to say this... in this heat they should be able to just park on double yellows same as I people with blue badges.

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By *eesideMan over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ambulance-parking-ticket-warden-tesco-12976410

So an ambulance got a ticket for stopping on double yellows while they went in for their drink.

Should they have parked in a bay ( or two if needed ) like we all have to?

It seems the ticket has been waived now, but is that the right thing to do?"

If thay wos not on call or at a emergency call out then to be fair thay shood have parked in a bay.

I no the NHS dus/trys to do a grate job but even the NHS shood follow the parking rules wen not on a emergency.

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By *utie91Woman over a year ago

Hitchin

"There's a lot of comments on the thread like, depends if they were on duty or not or if they were at the end of their shift.

Emergency vehicles aren't supposed to run red lights either, I think, but, I don't mind that also!"

Actually they can run tee lights... if on a genuine emergency call. They are exempt from that and are allowed to treat a red right as a giveway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was in an ambulance last night with my son. Stopping for a min to get a drink is ok in my book .(obviously not while they were taking us )

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let them park where the hell they want while there in shift

I’d rather them do that and be there when I need them than the alternative

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman over a year ago

stourbridge area

Im presuming the driver was in the driving seat and his/ her buddy popped out to get water ....They dont get set breaks its always lunch on the run....an ambulance is a big vehicle to fit in a bog standard car space ....its not as if they were doing a weekly shop ....they are constantly on call ..

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By *isaB45Woman over a year ago

Fabville

"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ambulance-parking-ticket-warden-tesco-12976410

So an ambulance got a ticket for stopping on double yellows while they went in for their drink.

Should they have parked in a bay ( or two if needed ) like we all have to?

It seems the ticket has been waived now, but is that the right thing to do?"

Problem is, if they maybe called to a major emergency, they would have very little time to get back to their ambulance. Additionally, crews often don't get a chance for a break, if their shift is busy.

Perhaps the parking warden could have used a little common sense and discretion...

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Eastbourne

Can you imagine an ambulance getting to you or your relative, due to being parked in a bag a distance away from a shop they went into.

In my opinion you let them off with it.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan over a year ago

Kent

So an ambulance got a ticket for stopping on double yellows while they went in for their drink.

Should they have parked in a bay ( or two if needed ) like we all have to?

Some jobs transcend the usual conventions and I think anyone in their right mind would say that paramedic is one of them.

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

I see this from a different direction, people park like this every day of the week in every supermarket in the country. It’s a shameless attempt by some very greedy media people who take advantage of a non-story to sell more newspapers or get more hits on their site so they can sell more advertisers space.

The story shouldn’t be that something inconsequential happened but that the media tries to manipulate us for their own advantage.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I see this from a different direction, people park like this every day of the week in every supermarket in the country. It’s a shameless attempt by some very greedy media people who take advantage of a non-story to sell more newspapers or get more hits on their site so they can sell more advertisers space.

The story shouldn’t be that something inconsequential happened but that the media tries to manipulate us for their own advantage."

Very true, however in this case, the video went viral long before the media got hold of it.

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

The story shouldn’t be that something inconsequential happened but that the media tries to manipulate us for their own advantage.

Very true, however in this case, the video went viral long before the media got hold of it. "

But nobody’s making any money from a viral video

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The story shouldn’t be that something inconsequential happened but that the media tries to manipulate us for their own advantage.

Very true, however in this case, the video went viral long before the media got hold of it.

But nobody’s making any money from a viral video"

Agreed, the point I was making is that this isn’t something the media has made up or blown out of proportion, but something they’ve certainly taken advantage of to their own purpose, you should of seen the journo’s scrabbling over the original video, trying to get permission from the owner (who I’m sure got a cut of the action), to use it, it was cringe worthy.

Though, I’ll also add, most people seemed quite eager for the media to get hold of it to spread awareness of the story and what was going on.

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

Yeah, the public love a bit of outrage, unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked"

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So I am guessing the majority think the ticket being sqaushed was the right thing?

Your job was never to rush to a person who is dying and its your job to try and save them

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By *ink Panther.Woman over a year ago

Preston

Having walked in the shoes of the NWAS they definitely shouldn’t have received a parking ticket. The area covered by NWAS is vast and the crew will have been doing a 12 hour shift. 8 hours without a break is a regular occurrence due to major incidents and ppl being unable to find a plaster. Yes they probably did have a drink with them at the beginning of the 8 hour shift, that will have long since gone. They may have been declined a break at that time and therefore in need of a toilet and refreshments. Working in the community and needing a toilet is absolutely awful. Public toilets aren’t the most hygienic of places and you then have to treat ppl at risk of infection. Working in hot conditions without access to fluid is also not conducive. Would anyone want a dehydrated paramedic or technician arriving to stabilise your condition before transporting you at speed to not necessarily the nearest hospital? I certainly wouldn’t and I’d pay the parking ticket on their behalf

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink. "

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing. "

Very slowly, what with only having little visibility with only wing mirrors, huge blind spots.

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By *r and Mrs A HornyCouple over a year ago

coventry

We both believe, the poor guy was in the right, I think I lost 6/7 friends for saying this but the law says they must stick to the law unless it an emergency.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The store have been quick to blame the firm responsible for the parking controls. They in turn have blamed the guy giving the ticket.

If it wasn't on film the firm would be bollocking him for turning a blind eye and the store bollocking the parking company for the same thing.

The guy was just doing his job, probably for shit money and with targets to meet.

No way paramedics on shift should be getting ticketed for this but it's simplistic to blame the warden.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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I personally don't think an issue should have been made out of their parking. But legally they had no excuse and no one can give a factually based argument to the contrary? "

This

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing.

Very slowly, what with only having little visibility with only wing mirrors, huge blind spots."

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing

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By *dam1971Man over a year ago

Bedford

I personally don't think an issue should have been made out of their parking. But legally they had no excuse and no one can give a factually based argument to the contrary?

This

Thank goodness the legal system is so well thought out and comprehensive that there’s never any room for interpretation, eh?

I bet 2 paramedics part way through a 10 hour shift doing something that caused no harm was exactly what they had in mind when they came up with that law.

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By *hunderstruckMan over a year ago

Northampton

Shouldn’t have got a ticket

The guy did his job but common sense should prevail .

I let a paramedic jump in front of me In McDonald’s . They didn’t ask but I can afford to wait

Their next call out could be a child or other emergency .

They have a tough enough job

Give them some leeway in these circumstances

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally I think you have to be a complete arse of a human being to stick a ticket on an ambulance. "

Not read anything in the thread past this post, but absolutely 100% agree

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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" Ultimately they don't have an excuse if that answers your question OP?

I guess we as the public need to decide if we think certain roles are cut a little slack when on day to day business?

If you were the parking attendant would you have booked them? "

No I don't think I would have done

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

I think you did, you said they need to be "be dispatched immediately" If they are not with the ambulance be that going for a pee or into a shop they can't be dispatched immediately.

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet.

Not my quote, do keep up ??"

Just seen this and yes you are right, it was you saying "Every minute is precious when trying to save a life"that made me say "If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all"

I do apologise for the misquote

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing. "

Im not saying they cant. Just that its going to take more time than just just being able to pull off

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It looks like no one has read the story in full.

The local authority has it legislated that emergency services are exempt from these tickets however private land isn’t covered by that.

Whichever association the private parking companies belong to stick to the spirit of this and don’t issue fines to emergency vehicles.

This particular company is not a part of this association but has said it also adheres to this and the attendant was wrong.

Someone makes a mistake, company apologises. Non news as it’s all dealt with.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I think the emergency services should park where they like when they like if it’s an emergency.

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By *good-being-badMan over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

I've had parking tickets. I'm no fan of parking wombles.. some I've appealed as there were circumstances that I believed were mitigating some of those were successful and the ticket cancelled...from what I've read the ticket has been cancelled.

As the crew weren't on an emergency blue lights sirens a blazing I see no reason they shouldn't have obeyed the laws of the land..'the might have been called' well just as easily "they might not have" or find a shop that doesn't have double yellows I'm pretty sure there will be shops without parking restrictions ..

it'd be a whole different story if they'd attended the shop / store as an emergency call and been given a ticket.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Personally I think ambulances should never attend parking wardens, hey that’s just me.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing.

Im not saying they cant. Just that its going to take more time than just just being able to pull off "

I suppose they could reverse in while they have time and no calls, then drive out if they get a call?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing.

Im not saying they cant. Just that its going to take more time than just just being able to pull off

I suppose they could reverse in while they have time and no calls, then drive out if they get a call?"

When people stop breathing, literally every second counts. I know these ambulance guys are sometimes non-stop, and the few seconds extra it may take them to reverse may be the difference between the crew getting a drink or not.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing.

Im not saying they cant. Just that its going to take more time than just just being able to pull off

I suppose they could reverse in while they have time and no calls, then drive out if they get a call?

They were not on an emergancy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So emergency services park in a space which is a 5 minute walk away. Do we really want that additional 5 minutes added to an emergency call that will almost certainly come in?

There was a bay next to where they parked

Going into or out of a bay will require reversing. Never an easy task in a large vehicle and is going to add mins to their time to grab a drink.

I am sure an ambulance driver is capable of reversing.

Im not saying they cant. Just that its going to take more time than just just being able to pull off

I suppose they could reverse in while they have time and no calls, then drive out if they get a call?

They were not on an emergancy

No, but they're on call - they have a screen in the vehicle which sends them emergency call details, no warning is given and activation is immediate.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I don’t care what they do as long as they get to where they are supposed to go on an emergency bloody quick!

On my first aid course they said not to assume an ambulance would come even if someone rang for one. Or that a defib will appear....

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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PS there is a pic of the ambulance reversed into a disabled spot before they moved it to the place they got a ticket.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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No, but they're on call - they have a screen in the vehicle which sends them emergency call details, no warning is given and activation is immediate."

In which case it would be sensible to reverse in a spot to make sure if a call came in they could drive out fast ( they managed to do that when they first got there )

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"PS there is a pic of the ambulance reversed into a disabled spot before they moved it to the place they got a ticket.

There were two ambulances at the location in the pics I saw. I can't believe people are being picky about 2 human beings who work a long time in their vehicles getting a drink of water in this heat. My friend's an EMT in London and she says they're non-stop a lot of the time and grab any chance of getting a drink when they can.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, but they're on call - they have a screen in the vehicle which sends them emergency call details, no warning is given and activation is immediate.

In which case it would be sensible to reverse in a spot to make sure if a call came in they could drive out fast ( they managed to do that when they first got there )"

Do you mean the disabled spaces? I would imagine there'd be as many, if not more complaints if they did that.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

To be honest it couldn't have been that urgent to get back on the ambulance as they stood arguing the toss with the traffic warden for ages.

I'm kind of with the traffic warden on this one. They weren't on a shout so didn't need to be parked on the double yellow lines.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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No, but they're on call - they have a screen in the vehicle which sends them emergency call details, no warning is given and activation is immediate.

In which case it would be sensible to reverse in a spot to make sure if a call came in they could drive out fast ( they managed to do that when they first got there )

Do you mean the disabled spaces? I would imagine there'd be as many, if not more complaints if they did that."

I don't know if anyone complained but they were in the first disabled bay out of the way. Whether the warden would have still given a ticket who knows.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"PS there is a pic of the ambulance reversed into a disabled spot before they moved it to the place they got a ticket.

They are not, they are having a discussion about whether they should get a ticket or not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"PS there is a pic of the ambulance reversed into a disabled spot before they moved it to the place they got a ticket.

There were two ambulances at the location in the pics I saw. I can't believe people are being picky about 2 human beings who work a long time in their vehicles getting a drink of water in this heat..

They are not, they are having a discussion about whether they should get a ticket or not."

Do you understand what's meant by "emergency"? It means immediately, not finish queuing and purchase drinks. If it takes them 5 seconds extra to reverse, that's 5 seconds less to queue and when lives are at stake, 5 seconds can make a difference. Yes, they were having a discussion because they hadn't received a call yet. If they had, they'd be gone immediately and there would be no story.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"PS there is a pic of the ambulance reversed into a disabled spot before they moved it to the place they got a ticket.

There were two ambulances at the location in the pics I saw. I can't believe people are being picky about 2 human beings who work a long time in their vehicles getting a drink of water in this heat..

They are not, they are having a discussion about whether they should get a ticket or not.

No I don't understand the word emergancy, I will go and google to see if I can find out.It might take a while because I am a bit thick

You have contradicted yourself a bit though, one minute you say they are on high alert and every second counts and the next say it doesn't matter where they were as they hadn't received a call yet

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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See, so thick I can't even type the word right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"PS there is a pic of the ambulance reversed into a disabled spot before they moved it to the place they got a ticket.

There were two ambulances at the location in the pics I saw. I can't believe people are being picky about 2 human beings who work a long time in their vehicles getting a drink of water in this heat..

They are not, they are having a discussion about whether they should get a ticket or not.

No I don't understand the word emergancy, I will go and google to see if I can find out.It might take a while because I am a bit thick

You have contradicted yourself a bit though, one minute you say they are on high alert and every second counts and the next say it doesn't matter where they were as they hadn't received a call yet"

Where did I say it doesn't matter where they were as they hadn't received a call yet? They were right by the ambulance when having the discussion with the warden so could have activated in a second.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

By the same employment laws that apply to everyone the crew are entitled to a meal break to be taken at their main place of work, the ambulance station. They're "stood down" ie are not given calls during the time it takes them to drive to the station, and then 20 mins break. This means that the ambulance can be unavailable for up 30-40 mins total. Because of the good nature of the majority of ambulance staff, they keep the vehicle on the road and grab food/drink whenever they can. It's not always possible to find a food/drink shop that doesn't have yellow lines outside it. Do you really want a medical team turning up to a sick person who aren't properly nourished and hydrated? Lack of food and water can affect the ability of a human to do intricate tasks, and believe me, medical work and saving lives can involve intricate tasks.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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Where did I say it doesn't matter where they were as they hadn't received a call yet? They were right by the ambulance when having the discussion with the warden so could have activated in a second."

So what happens if they had gone into the shop for the water?

Don't get me wrong, I don't care what they do, just like I don't care if a policeman parks on doubles to go buy do-nuts, what I find worrying is so many people ( not just on here) who make so many excuses of why they couldn't park 10 foot away where they may not have got a ticket.

So begs the question...what about policeman , do they need to park in a bay or can they do double yellows too.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"By the same employment laws that apply to everyone the crew are entitled to a meal break to be taken at their main place of work, the ambulance station. They're "stood down" ie are not given calls during the time it takes them to drive to the station, and then 20 mins break. This means that the ambulance can be unavailable for up 30-40 mins total. Because of the good nature of the majority of ambulance staff, they keep the vehicle on the road and grab food/drink whenever they can. It's not always possible to find a food/drink shop that doesn't have yellow lines outside it. Do you really want a medical team turning up to a sick person who aren't properly nourished and hydrated? Lack of food and water can affect the ability of a human to do intricate tasks, and believe me, medical work and saving lives can involve intricate tasks."

So through their own choice they think they are above the law?

I do think people get a bit blinkered by the emergency services. If they were stood down (do we actually know of they were or not?) then why are they above the law?

I'm not sure I but the argument that they don't have time between shifts to properly prepare for their next shift.

The whole of England know its hot out so if you know you're gonna be stuck in a van for hours on end would you not think to pack some drink before you left the house?

I do understand that time is of the essence in an emergency situation but I assume (and it is an assumption based on watching 999 shows) they can either be put on hold for a short time or on delayed call out. I know other emergency services can do this as they do it when attending my place of work.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Where did I say it doesn't matter where they were as they hadn't received a call yet? They were right by the ambulance when having the discussion with the warden so could have activated in a second.

So what happens if they had gone into the shop for the water?

So begs the question...what about policeman , do they need to park in a bay or can they do double yellows too. "

They have personal radios. They would have been in their vehicle within seconds. You're trying to be picky about this, but they are humans. They need food and water, they need to piss and shit but in every other aspect they will respond to an emergency as quick as humanly possible.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So through their own choice they think they are above the law?

I do think people get a bit blinkered by the emergency services. If they were stood down (do we actually know of they were or not?) then why are they above the law?

I'm not sure I but the argument that they don't have time between shifts to properly prepare for their next shift.

The whole of England know its hot out so if you know you're gonna be stuck in a van for hours on end would you not think to pack some drink before you left the house?

An ambulance is a clinical treatment area, with cupboards stuffed with medical kit. How much space do you think there is on one for all the food and drink you think they should carry?

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By *oodnitegirlWoman over a year ago

Yorkshire

‘Get a donut’ implies you are just taking the mickey.

Some replies on this thread are absolutely making me froth!... It’s the hottest time of the year, they are driving at speed in a big tin can inbetween attending to patients for 12 (more like 14) long hours... they are likely doing without an actual break and eating on the go.

I don’t know how many of you have done a 12 hour shift covered In other people’s bodily fluids, going without a wee or a cup of tea but those that work in healthcare will know that is no exaggeration.

Recently a colleague of mine died on her drive home after working 15 hours with no break, so sorry if it’s touched a bit of a nerve.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

So through their own choice they think they are above the law?

I do think people get a bit blinkered by the emergency services. If they were stood down (do we actually know of they were or not?) then why are they above the law?

I'm not sure I but the argument that they don't have time between shifts to properly prepare for their next shift.

The whole of England know its hot out so if you know you're gonna be stuck in a van for hours on end would you not think to pack some drink before you left the house?

An ambulance is a clinical treatment area, with cupboards stuffed with medical kit. How much space do you think there is on one for all the food and drink you think they should carry?"

Enough space in the cab for them to store a couple of bottles of water and a sandwich or two I'd wager. I'll take a peak inside next time one comes to work.

Like I said, I think the warden was within his right to give the ticket as technically they are not above the law. However most councils will overturn contested tickets for emergency vehicles as has been done in this case I believe.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

And only the back is a clinical treatment area, not the cab.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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So begs the question...what about policeman , do they need to park in a bay or can they do double yellows too.

I am joining in a debate about the subject of parking in a car park and not about someone needing a drink, because it is different view than yours doesn't make it picky.

You are saying time is of the essence as to why they can't park in a bay.

My point is parking in a bay is not going to take any much longer than parking on double yellows and arguing with an attendant.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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Enough space in the cab for them to store a couple of bottles of water and a sandwich or two I'd wager. I'll take a peak inside next time one comes to work.

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It would get a bit warm in this weather though so they would still need more through the day

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the emergency services should park where they like when they like if it’s an emergency. "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Enough space in the cab for them to store a couple of bottles of water and a sandwich or two I'd wager. I'll take a peak inside next time one comes to work.

It would get a bit warm in this weather though so they would still need more through the day

Yeah I guess it would but I think people are being rathwr alarmist with all these coiled spring analogies. As you say, if it truly were a case of time being the essence then they wouldn't leave the cab but they do, they have to. They don't have to break the law in doing so.

I am not saying emergency services don't deserve breaks or the opportunity to buy food, of course they do. Ands I understand that due to the nature of their work their break times are irregular.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"I think the emergency services should park where they like when they like if it’s an emergency.

Exactly.... In an emergency situation. This was not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And only the back is a clinical treatment area, not the cab."

That depends on whether the vehicle is the walk-through type or not. But you'd prefer them to be sat in the cab, during the hottest days of the year grabbing a drink when they can. Have you absolutely no compassion, they're human beings FFS.

They would save your life in a literal heartbeat, and you're being picky about them having a drink. Perhaps they should have just dehydrated and then called their own emergency to satisfy you? You seriously need to get some humanity lessons.

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By *irtySekretsCouple over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent

They should not of been ticketed.

They were still on call. They should be allowed to get a quick drink and a sarnie.

The world has gone fucking bonkers. The liberal PC brigade have fucked this country.

Ffs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They should not of been ticketed.

They were still on call. They should be allowed to get a quick drink and a sarnie.

The world has gone fucking bonkers. The liberal PC brigade have fucked this country.

Ffs

Compassion is seriously lacking here - I find it quite hard to comprehend it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't care where they park.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ambulance-parking-ticket-warden-tesco-12976410

So an ambulance got a ticket for stopping on double yellows while they went in for their drink.

Should they have parked in a bay ( or two if needed ) like we all have to?

It seems the ticket has been waived now, but is that the right thing to do?"

It should be waived for any emergency service esp if hydrating in this heat the ticket guy needs a slep for having the balls

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My mate's brother used to work as a conductor on the buses and got the driver to stop outside his mum's house (my mate and I were inside playing at the time), to make a dash for the loo.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Id give the ticket warden a ticket for being a jobsworth cock

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By *irtySekretsCouple over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent

Two lines. Painted yellow vs amazing people who work long hours for a relatively shit salary. Saving lives. Putting themselves in danger.

Being treated like Shit by the ever increasing cancer this country has been infested by, ie Scutters.

And some money making parasite company giving out tickets for just that making money. Not about Parking. Makes my fucking blood boil.

I’ve not Served this country for 28 years for those cunts to screw people. Rant Over

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By *untime2Man over a year ago

Lauder

"‘Get a donut’ implies you are just taking the mickey.

Recently a colleague of mine died on her drive home after working 15 hours with no break, so sorry if it’s touched a bit of a nerve.

Chin up, beautiful. You’re the hardest working little ‘ambulance driver’ I know xxx

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

Merseyside

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are thousands of laws that lots of people break all the time - being d*unk in a pub, swearing on the street, having car keys in your pocket whilst d*unk, speeding, laughing

- this country has discretion otherwise the public’s consent would disappear and the country would come to a halt!

At least this debate is allowed, but if you were in the USA the respect for emergancy services is such that the ticket would have never been issued in the first place!

All arguments here are valid, but discretion is required every second of every day!

I’m with the guy that said they’d pay the ticket on their behalf!

Pointless story!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, but they're on call - they have a screen in the vehicle which sends them emergency call details, no warning is given and activation is immediate.

In which case it would be sensible to reverse in a spot to make sure if a call came in they could drive out fast ( they managed to do that when they first got there )

Do you mean the disabled spaces? I would imagine there'd be as many, if not more complaints if they did that.

I don't know if anyone complained but they were in the first disabled bay out of the way. Whether the warden would have still given a ticket who knows. "

He didn’t

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By *ky19Man over a year ago

Plymouth

I agree with the discretion approach.

The lack of compassion from some amazes me.

Sometimes right and wrong go further than some rules, such as parking.

I often see police cars parked on double yellows without emergency, yet I still give them a break out of respect for what they do. Also because they are pretty sound around here and have given me leeway in the past.

Bottom line: For me emergency services can park where they want when they want, emergency or not!

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

In my job role, in Night management, one of my considerations on shift is to offer our premises for Emergency Services Personnel for toilet breaks or a cuppa through the night.

Some do take up on the offer and come in for a cuppa; paramedics do a 12 hour shift day or night and just having that short break makes all the difference to them. At times they might not get a break for 8, 9 even 10 Hours straight through.

I have the highest regard for police and paramedic personnel. Even last December I needed an Ambulance called in as I was paralysed in bed in agony & literally couldn't move. It was 4 hrs before a crew was available, they were that busy!

I don't begrudge them taking a few minutes break at any time. They are human beings, they are entitled to a break to energise themselves in readiness for their next patient and whether they are in a parking space, on double yellow lines or wherever, as long as they aren't causing an obstruction or danger to others, I'd disagree highly over any officious tw*t who dared to issue a ticket.

Lets hope his bosses take him in to teach him not to be a prize winning pillock and use his brain cell a bit better in future!

I also hope he never needs emergency services personnel rushing to his aid in future!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

So parking in a bay would stop them doing that?

Potentially yes"

Leaving the ambulance could potentially stop them saving lives. Most people can't just go and buy a drink when they feel like it they need to take their lunch with them.

Or at the very least send one person in while the other stays in the ambulance to listen for a call out.

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By *FFB69Woman over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet.

It isn’t personal at all, but I do think you are deliberately trying to troll and flame

Or ask questions for the debate? Maybe ignore the thread if you are not happy"

Sorry but it definitely comes across like you're deliberately trying to cause an issue and twist people's words. That's not having a debate.

If it were someone else leaving inflammatory comments I wonder if they'd be removed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives? "

Yes exactly! Let's face it they are not going to stop giving CPR with a hey sorry mate be back in an hour after my lunch break! They work long hours in difficult circumstances looking after others, they need to look after themselves in order to do that.

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By *FFB69Woman over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

They're also not breaking the law by parking on double yellows.

Emergency vehicles are exempt and allowed to park on double yellows. Regardless of whether they're on an emergency call or not. Because while in work they are always "on call"

They save time by parking at the front of the store where they can just run in and grab a drink. They can't physically fit into one bay and you can gaurante you'd have the same people moaning about them parking across two bays or parking in a disabled space. You'd also likely get some idiot parking next to them so they can't get back in the car.

How is this even up for discussion? They work 12-14 hour days. With few if any breaks, save lives for shitty pay. And people are begrudging them trying to managed their time as efficiently as possible? Where I work we have a bay marked specifically for emergency vehicles and you can bet your life 90% of the time it's never an emergency vehicle parked there. Wish we could give them tickets but I'm sure the same people would whine about that too

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

Was this the same warden who a few years ago, ticketed a hearse stopped outside a church having just delivered the coffin for a funeral taking place there and then at the church?

Or the warden who slapped a ticket on a bus in a marked Bus Stop as it stood at a terminus for a few minutes before resuming its return journey?

Some wardens obviously have no grey matter whatsoever between their ears!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

But they know what the job entails so why not take food and drink on shift with them? "
Due to infection control restrictions we are not allowed to store food in ths vehicle,we are only allowed to collect food to eat straight away or take it to our station.

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By *utie91Woman over a year ago

Hitchin

"They're also not breaking the law by parking on double yellows.

Emergency vehicles are exempt and allowed to park on double yellows. Regardless of whether they're on an emergency call or not. Because while in work they are always "on call"

We get 1 x 30 min break in our 12hr shift.

And sometimes we don’t even get that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And sometimes we can go up to 12hrs without even getting a chance for a drink never mind stop for food.

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By *utie91Woman over a year ago

Hitchin

"And sometimes we can go up to 12hrs without even getting a chance for a drink never mind stop for food."

Yep. It’s annoying that so many people don’t actually understand what we have to endure in order to do this job.

For example most of us are struggling to sleep during the day due to the heat and then have to get up and do a full night shift. Currently half way through my night shift and I’m knackered.

I might sacrifice my food for a nap instead

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By *ky19Man over a year ago

Plymouth

Keep up the good work, a lot of us here appreciate you

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By *heislanderMan over a year ago

cheshunt

All the warden was worried about was getting his little bonus, do people not realise the magnificent work our emergency services do ? I don’t understand people saying they shouldn’t be above the law, if you needed an ambulance would you not want it to arrive as soon as possible or would you be happy to wait because they’re on an official break. I’d hazard a guess that the warden hadn’t worked 8hrs without a break

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

Two things, people keep mentioning the law of the land.

This is private property, so parking is nothing to do with the local authority.

People in jobs like this are often not taught about discretion.

Working in London, we often have road closures due to events.

Early one morning they started blocking the roads. I tried to get from a closed road into an open road with authority from the event organisers but the guy had been told not to move the cones, eventually a supervisor came over and explained that if vehicles had the correct authorisation they could come and go unhindered...

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"And sometimes we can go up to 12hrs without even getting a chance for a drink never mind stop for food."

Surely that's why people invented sandwiches and flasks innit

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"All the warden was worried about was getting his little bonus, do people not realise the magnificent work our emergency services do ? I don’t understand people saying they shouldn’t be above the law, if you needed an ambulance would you not want it to arrive as soon as possible or would you be happy to wait because they’re on an official break. I’d hazard a guess that the warden hadn’t worked 8hrs without a break

It is ridiculous to argue that they are the only ambulance in the area abd that no emergencies could be responded to because they needed a drink. Their control centre know what each and every ambulance is up to so that emergencies don't go unanswered "

There is often a shortage of ambulance/crews, they could also be the closest crew.

Be honest, if a close family member was dying in front of you, would you like to hear "We have a crew 2 minutes away but they are on a break, so we are sending another crew, they will be with you in about 15 minutes..."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Still a non story

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

There is often a shortage of ambulance/crews, they could also be the closest crew.

Again.... Ridiculous, because they wouldn't say that would they. They would dispatch the nearest available crew.

Someone has already said that they can go of duty for a break but that many don't. I'm guessing they don't all go off at one time leaving their area ambulanceless.

Your comment makes it sound as if you don't think they are entitled to a break at all.

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

There is often a shortage of ambulance/crews, they could also be the closest crew.

Again.... Ridiculous, because they wouldn't say that would they. They would dispatch the nearest available crew.

Someone has already said that they can go of duty for a break but that many don't. I'm guessing they don't all go off at one time leaving their area ambulanceless.

Your comment makes it sound as if you don't think they are entitled to a break at all. "

Obviously they wouldn't say it but you wouldn't be happy if you found out afterwards.

Again you have totally missed the point.

Emergency service personnel often make a failing systtem work by going above and beyond.

I think they should be cut some slack...

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Would you rather us stop for 2 mins to grab a quick drink or stop for 10mins delaying your ambulance response?

When I leave my house I carry a drink and fan in this weather. I live in London, there are shops on every street corner so I'm unlikely to dehydrate yet still I'm prepared.

So it's a little worrying if someone in a profession that could save my life isn't prepared with regards their own wellbeing.

Some professions assume they're exempt. That said, would I have ticketed an ambulance...probably not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is jolly silly thread.

If the ambulance crew were so busy and needed to save lives then at least one of them needed to be in the ambulance to know a life needed saving. And then they would not have got a parking charge.

Getting into the media will cause the crew involved much more hassle than asking the supermarket to drop the parking charge quietly. But moment of fame and quiet news days can get people into a bit of a frenzy.

I got a parking charge in the NHS car park when my appointment over ran and I was 10 minutes over the hour I paid for. I asked the NHS to wave it as they were at fault not keeping to schedule, but apparently they couldn't do that.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

But they know what the job entails so why not take food and drink on shift with them? "

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By *eeBee67Man over a year ago

Masked and Distant

They need to get the ticket guy round our local "every little helps" emporium.

Certain sections of community seem to think the double yellows right in front of main entrance means...park your high power leased VW golf here while you wait for your mate to go shopping.

Leave the ambulance alone ffs.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"Paramedics hardly get time for a break ,you wouldnt want them to come to dear old granny and collapse with dehydration after working 8hrs with out a drink or food ,try wearing there uniform and rubber gloves and heavy shoes in this heat ,.some people have no idea whats it like to work on the front line in this heat ,i done it for 14 years on a ward were we were not aloud to have a cold drink unless it was our break ,and no air conditioning on the ward ,and windows that hardly opened and wearing plastic aprons and gloves ..try working like that befor you start moaning....

There are jobs I couldn't/wouldn't do because I know I couldn't hack it: and I salute those who can/choose to. However, it is a choice.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"This is jolly silly thread.

If the ambulance crew were so busy and needed to save lives then at least one of them needed to be in the ambulance to know a life needed saving. And then they would not have got a parking charge.

Agree with you.

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By *FFB69Woman over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"This is jolly silly thread.

If the ambulance crew were so busy and needed to save lives then at least one of them needed to be in the ambulance to know a life needed saving. And then they would not have got a parking charge.

Yes. Because it was the paramedic who filmed it and put it online and not a member of the public.

You realise they have radios on them yes?

Jolly silly comment by someone who doesn't appear to be in possession of all the facts, if you ask me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

But they know what the job entails so why not take food and drink on shift with them?

How long can you store food and drink in an ambulance when working a 12 hour shift? Maybe they stopped so they could use the toilet too?

I really think some people are missing the point that minutes saves lives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And sometimes we can go up to 12hrs without even getting a chance for a drink never mind stop for food.

Surely that's why people invented sandwiches and flasks innit

That is going to sit in a hot ambulance for 12 hours.. right.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Maybe because they’re trying to fit some food and drink into them as fast as they can in between saving lives?

But they know what the job entails so why not take food and drink on shift with them? Due to infection control restrictions we are not allowed to store food in ths vehicle,we are only allowed to collect food to eat straight away or take it to our station."

And there you have it people..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes. Because it was the paramedic who filmed it and put it online and not a member of the public.

You realise they have radios on them yes?

Jolly silly comment by someone who doesn't appear to be in possession of all the facts, if you ask me. "

Agreed I don't have all the facts, but then neither do any of the other posters on the thread.

I am aware that Ambulances have radios in them. Are you aware that radios don't work unless there are ears to listen to them?

I assume the paramedic who was filming it was not able to drive the ambulance and avoid the ticket? Don't know that for sure of course, as I don't have all the facts..

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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Sorry but it definitely comes across like you're deliberately trying to cause an issue and twist people's words. That's not having a debate.

If it were someone else leaving inflammatory comments I wonder if they'd be removed. "

I didn't. The words were there. My questions started a good ( for the most part ) discussion with most people joining in.

If you think me starting a thread asking questions (and up to that point not giving me view on it( is against site rules then please report and it will be passed to Admin

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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"Yes. Because it was the paramedic who filmed it and put it online and not a member of the public.

You realise they have radios on them yes?

Jolly silly comment by someone who doesn't appear to be in possession of all the facts, if you ask me.

Agreed I don't have all the facts, but then neither do any of the other posters on the thread.

I am aware that Ambulances have radios in them. Are you aware that radios don't work unless there are ears to listen to them?

I assume the paramedic who was filming it was not able to drive the ambulance and avoid the ticket? Don't know that for sure of course, as I don't have all the facts.. "

A member of the public filmed it

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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Ok can people please remember it is just a discussion, if you feel the need to attack and abuse people for their views please read the forum summary

Forum Rules

In summary: If you treat other people with respect, you can't go far wrong. Don't forget that the forums are meant to be fun, if you find yourself fuming and writing long angry messages you're probably best taking a break from it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but it's a little different to the normal can't be arsed to walk a bit farther types?

Can I ask why?

Because they can be dispatched immediately, so my thoughts are that if they park ten minutes away to get food how does that factor into a response?

Parking spaces in supermarkets are never normally ten minutes away

Every minute is precious when trying to save a life

If that was applied they wouldn't have gone into the shop at all

Are you joking???

Dear lord

No. You are saying they need to be with or very near their ambulance at all times, so by that logic they shouldn't be leaving their ambulance at all ( according to your logic not my view )

That’s not what I said at all, so please don’t try putting words in my mouth.

Your ignorance of the service is saddening and a little sickening imo

Try not to get personal or airiated

I have not given my own personal view yet.

It isn’t personal at all, but I do think you are deliberately trying to troll and flame

Or ask questions for the debate? Maybe ignore the thread if you are not happy

Sorry but it definitely comes across like you're deliberately trying to cause an issue and twist people's words. That's not having a debate.

If it were someone else leaving inflammatory comments I wonder if they'd be removed. "

I note you suggested to report to admin?

I’m not sure that would help would it?

And I’d suggest you know exactly what you’re doing.

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By *ugby 123 OP Couple over a year ago
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If you have a problem with any of my posts report them. Then drop it please

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By *good-being-badMan over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Emergency vehicles when responding proceed through red lights and when appropriate speed to get to the emergency a sap ...

When they're not responding to an emergency they obey the road signs speed limits and from what I've seen this morning red lights as well... if the guys that are saying this time saved by parking in contravention of the parking restrictions you'd happily let emergency vehicles that aren't responding to an emergency speed run red lights etc.. cos that'd save them time as well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Emergency vehicles when responding proceed through red lights and when appropriate speed to get to the emergency a sap ...

The fundamental difference is Parking on double yellows won’t harm anyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They broke the law simples it's cut and dry, they got away with it because they are emergency services that's the perk

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