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Ant fined the biggest ever drink driving fine in the uk

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By *limark OP   Couple  over a year ago

Next door to Brenda & Clive

£86000 that was an expensive piss up

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By *tingly ByronMan  over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up"

That's a lot of money.

He really should have organised a taxi or a chaffeur.

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By *limark OP   Couple  over a year ago

Next door to Brenda & Clive


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

That's a lot of money.

He really should have organised a taxi or a chaffeur.

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I would of drove him about for 2 tickets on the plane

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

That's a lot of money.

He really should have organised a taxi or a chaffeur.

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He's got millions ... should of been more !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not much point fining him a few hundred quid is there. At that price he'll think twice before doing it again

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden

Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!

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By *limark OP   Couple  over a year ago

Next door to Brenda & Clive


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!"
Exactly

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

That's a lot of money.

He really should have organised a taxi or a chaffeur.

He's got millions ... should of been more !"

I was thinking the same - it's peanuts for him and accidents cause devastating life-long injuries, devastation as well as loss of lives.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Apparently 5days wages

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Shows how much he earns as it goes on percentages or something like that. Should have thrown the book at him. He knew what he was doing when he got behind that wheel. ??

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!"

There are sentencing guidelines related to how over the limit a person is, and he didn't hit the threshold for a custodial sentence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bless him. He's having a hard time

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I thought the maximum fine for drink driving was £2500?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For someone that owns his own preduction company and has a 30 million pound fortune he's declared in his bank account.Im guessing it won't leave him skint.

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!

There are sentencing guidelines related to how over the limit a person is, and he didn't hit the threshold for a custodial sentence. "

Ah I see. Cheers.

What about size of forehead threshold?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"I thought the maximum fine for drink driving was £2500?"

Can be means tested.

And he got a lotta means.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

About time drink driving became attempted murder as a charge tbh. It's only luck he didn't kill anyone

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By *heik yourwillyMan  over a year ago

shire

should have got the nick , many have for less

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"About time drink driving became attempted murder as a charge tbh. It's only luck he didn't kill anyone"

You forgot crimes against music and forcing the chessyiest of all cheese into our tv screens

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By *limark OP   Couple  over a year ago

Next door to Brenda & Clive


"Shows how much he earns as it goes on percentages or something like that. Should have thrown the book at him. He knew what he was doing when he got behind that wheel. ??"
What gets me about this is His Mum must have surely known he was pissed but still got in with him

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"About time drink driving became attempted murder as a charge tbh. It's only luck he didn't kill anyone

You forgot crimes against music and forcing the chessyiest of all cheese into our tv screens "

That too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"About time drink driving became attempted murder as a charge tbh. It's only luck he didn't kill anyone"
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And speeders, I'd give them 20 years hard labour

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shows how much he earns as it goes on percentages or something like that. Should have thrown the book at him. He knew what he was doing when he got behind that wheel. ??What gets me about this is His Mum must have surely known he was pissed but still got in with him "

Couldn’t agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nail em up

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By *ushandkittyCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester

Does it matter who it is? Shouldn't the thread title say 'Convicted d*unk driver fined......'?

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By *rincessvenusCouple  over a year ago

Hull

peanuts to him it wil be back in the bank by weekend he should have gone to prison

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By *ushandkittyCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester

Apparently the judge said it was 2/3 of his weekly salary, but that was on BBC news so don't know how accurate that is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Far too lenient, I'd said a minimum of electric chair

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!Exactly "

I didn't think the child was hurt. Just taken to hospital as a precaution?

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"Does it matter who it is? Shouldn't the thread title say 'Convicted d*unk driver fined......'?"

But how would we know who she was talking about

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By *emplarWarriorMan  over a year ago

Nottingham

The geezer has a net worth of over £62 million, and in 2016 alone made almost £15 million. In court, his earning was said to be £130,000 a week so when you look at it like that £86k is about 3 days work. He should have been given a custodial sentence!

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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I think it was in relation to what he earns, about 5 days pay.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, he appears to be in meltdown and it's a shame he is exposed so much to the glare of publicity

I'm sure if Ant worked in Tesco the fine would be considerably less and would nerit a few lines in the round the court section of the daily echo..or whatever

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By *inkerbell67Woman  over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Who cares about who he is .he could have killed sombody .I've no time for drink drivers .celebs think they are above the law,same as football plays. A d*unk driver nearly killed me and has ruined my life .left with scares and medical condition....

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington

Jail is the only way cunts like him will learn hes a pathetic excuse of a man and all the tossers who are giving him all the support mainly other so called celebs should be ashamed ohh poor me ive got issues well most of us have but dont whine about it fucking moron

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By *limark OP   Couple  over a year ago

Next door to Brenda & Clive


"The geezer has a net worth of over £62 million, and in 2016 alone made almost £15 million. In court, his earning was said to be £130,000 a week so when you look at it like that £86k is about 3 days work. He should have been given a custodial sentence!"
Isnt he trying to get off drugs and drink though

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By *layer oneMan  over a year ago

mirfield

He should be sacked but itv won’t do it. Any one else would be unemployed by now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Jail is the only way cunts like him will learn hes a pathetic excuse of a man and all the tossers who are giving him all the support mainly other so called celebs should be ashamed ohh poor me ive got issues well most of us have but dont whine about it fucking moron "
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Don't forget speeders as well, they kill more than drink drivers.

15-20 years minimum zero tolerance

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Given the abuse and opposition I've received on these forums for suggesting harsher punishments for people commuting driving offences it makes me sad that all of a sudden people are calling fir a custodial sentence. It's about the offence not the offender.

He deserves the ban, he deserves the fine. Not sure he deserves the vitriol and hatred.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But I've got this shiny new pitchfork

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent


"I think it was in relation to what he earns, about 5 days pay."

Weeks wages for clipping a kid?, Bargain! just let me weld some Boudica spikes to the wheels first.

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By *oldtapsCouple  over a year ago

Cwmbran

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By *oldtapsCouple  over a year ago

Cwmbran

PJ and D*unken

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By *oldtapsCouple  over a year ago

Cwmbran

For some reason it doesn't like d*unken

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don’t think he should of got jail, it’s not the normal sentence for drink driving, if jail was the normal sentence then of course he should get jail I don’t think he should be sentenced anymore than anyone else

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am 100% shure that if i got into the driving seat of my car twice over the legal limit with my mother in the passenger seat, she would have something very unrepeatable to say, followed by grabbing the car keys off of me at the least.

I know his barrister declared his "salary" at £130,000 a week.............that's bollocks !!!!!!. Ant and Dec own the production company, that company makes profits way above there salary's and of course is registered in a tax haven. The court was far too lenient with the £86,000 fine. The court should have looked into the production company profit's as well as his "salary". His actual income could easily be over double that declared to the court.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent

Made me laugh

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-43790415/car-collision-outside-ant-mcpartlin-sentencing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Holy moly!

Though in fact bloody good!

He could have killed someone, I detest drink drivers , celebrity or not.

Should have called a taxi.

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By *alcon43Woman  over a year ago

Paisley

I went by train today so I could have a drink. It’s not that difficult.

His Mum shouldn’t have met him drive. I’ve said on different places why didn’t he hire a driver. If my knees were so sore I’d gladly not drive. Painkillers and alcohol don’t mix well either.

He’s damaged his own career and probably Dec’s as well. They’ve also lost sponsorship deals.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree that he was out of order big time for driving, but custodial sentence? Our jails are full enough as it is. There are 85,000 people in the UK convicted of drink driving every year. Should they all be locked up?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He should be sacked but itv won’t do it. Any one else would be unemployed by now "

Of course they wont bloody do it!

Loads of people make loads of money, from Ant and Dec.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shows how much he earns as it goes on percentages or something like that. Should have thrown the book at him. He knew what he was doing when he got behind that wheel. ??What gets me about this is His Mum must have surely known he was pissed but still got in with him "

I'm a bit shocked he actually did it. I thought his mum would have stopped him. Unless it was painkiller/ alcohol mix and she hadn't realised. Maybe neither of them did.

He's in a position of responsibility. Kids watch their shows. Hope it's his wake up call and he can get himself sorted.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Half a weeks salary for him. I got fined more than that (half a weeks wages that is) for doing 83mph on a 50mph dual carriageway.

Too lenient I say.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He should be sacked but itv won’t do it. Any one else would be unemployed by now

Of course they wont bloody do it!

Loads of people make loads of money, from Ant and Dec.

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Quite possibly but should you or I be sacked if it was us?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He should be sacked but itv won’t do it. Any one else would be unemployed by now

Of course they wont bloody do it!

Loads of people make loads of money, from Ant and Dec.

Quite possibly but should you or I be sacked if it was us?"

Jamie Carragher got sacked for spitting out of a car.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He should be sacked but itv won’t do it. Any one else would be unemployed by now

Of course they wont bloody do it!

Loads of people make loads of money, from Ant and Dec.

Quite possibly but should you or I be sacked if it was us?"

It isnt us though.

And he is possibly the biggest cash cow in the country.

Money talks

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By *innamon!Woman  over a year ago

no matter

His mother was in the car what was she thinking allowing him to drive. Shame on her.

Crikey he could have paid a Chauffeur for a couple of years on that fine.:O had to be done though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm more surprised his mum was in the car...he was clearly d*unk. She should be ashamed of herself. And where was his management. If they knew he was struggling. Poor show all round x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He should be sacked but itv won’t do it. Any one else would be unemployed by now

Of course they wont bloody do it!

Loads of people make loads of money, from Ant and Dec.

Quite possibly but should you or I be sacked if it was us?

It isnt us though.

And he is possibly the biggest cash cow in the country.

Money talks"

Just trying to make the point that he did something wrong in his private life so why should his professional life suffer. Now, if he was on tv as a advocate of abstinence then yes.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Eastbourne

To him though I dare say it would be similar, to a £200 fine for us.

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Shows how much he earns as it goes on percentages or something like that. Should have thrown the book at him. He knew what he was doing when he got behind that wheel. ??What gets me about this is His Mum must have surely known he was pissed but still got in with him

I'm a bit shocked he actually did it. I thought his mum would have stopped him. Unless it was painkiller/ alcohol mix and she hadn't realised. Maybe neither of them did.

He's in a position of responsibility. Kids watch their shows. Hope it's his wake up call and he can get himself sorted. "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"I think it was in relation to what he earns, about 5 days pay.

Weeks wages for clipping a kid?, Bargain! just let me weld some Boudica spikes to the wheels first. "

He didn't clip a kid

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Half a weeks salary for him. I got fined more than that (half a weeks wages that is) for doing 83mph on a 50mph dual carriageway.

Too lenient I say. "

Different crime, different guidelines. Comparing apples and pears.

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By *ackwheelsMan  over a year ago

greenford

It's means tested

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up"

Twat should have been put inside as well as the fine (which should have been MUCH more it's a piss in the ocean to him)

Justice once again not done...

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By *oserMan  over a year ago

where the wild roses grow


"Not much point fining him a few hundred quid is there. At that price he'll drink twice before doing it again "

Fixed that for ya.... he will do it again and again because hes an alco that is pandered to by all and sundry

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I thought the maximum fine for drink driving was £2500?"

New laws now....

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Twat should have been put inside as well as the fine (which should have been MUCH more it's a piss in the ocean to him)

Justice once again not done... "

You can't lock everyone up.... It would cost a fucking fortune and prisons are at breaking point as it is!

He was sentenced in accordance with the guidelines. I suspect the original fine was higher but mitigation applied for it being a first time offence, no one hurt (not even this child everyone beats on about), his plea etc. He was also banned for 20 months (reduced to 14 if he agrees to do a course). This is exactly how anyone else would be tried under the same situation although o would imagine someone could get off the ban if it was proved they'd lose their job if they couldn't drive.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Half a weeks salary for him. I got fined more than that (half a weeks wages that is) for doing 83mph on a 50mph dual carriageway.

Too lenient I say. "

And why did you do that....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Half a weeks salary for him. I got fined more than that (half a weeks wages that is) for doing 83mph on a 50mph dual carriageway.

Too lenient I say.

And why did you do that...."

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It's an easy mistake when you've had a couple

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He shouldn’t have done it and the fine? Maybe he should have made more but He shouldn’t have to do time for a first offence and it’s in line with other crimes like this, why clog up the prisons with this kind of thing, fine him more and put that money back into something good.

Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in the same way.

Drink driving is never right regardless of who you are.

Geeky x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Considering he earned 31.8 million last year that fine is equivalent to a days wage for him. Personally I think he should be left to deal with his demons in private now and to get better properly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Half a weeks salary for him. I got fined more than that (half a weeks wages that is) for doing 83mph on a 50mph dual carriageway.

Too lenient I say.

And why did you do that.....

It's an easy mistake when you've had a couple"

So you were speeding and pissed?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bring back hanging !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This whole Ant drink driving story has got me annoyed. If that was your average joe who carried out this crime he/she would be branded a public menace who put everyone in danger and should be locked up. But because it’s a celebrity everyone whips out the sympathy saying he needs help to overcome this problem he has. It’s rediculous how can you brand two people whom have done the same thing with different reactions? (I’m basing this by everyone’s opinion on the matter at work yesterday)

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"This whole Ant drink driving story has got me annoyed. If that was your average joe who carried out this crime he/she would be branded a public menace who put everyone in danger and should be locked up. But because it’s a celebrity everyone whips out the sympathy saying he needs help to overcome this problem he has. It’s rediculous how can you brand two people whom have done the same thing with different reactions? (I’m basing this by everyone’s opinion on the matter at work yesterday) "

Don't be so ridiculous. If he was an average Joe we wouldn't have heard about it. This has been the main story on many news outlets through each stage and he's been given the largest fine to date.

The fact that his addiction has played out in the public pic eye has led people to realise that things aren't as black and white as they seem.

The law has been followed and he has been punished as per the guidelines used for everyone. Why do people think he should be punished outside the law?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shows how much he earns as it goes on percentages or something like that. Should have thrown the book at him. He knew what he was doing when he got behind that wheel. ??What gets me about this is His Mum must have surely known he was pissed but still got in with him

Couldn’t agree more. "

It’s his mum so why did she not stop him ? I know if mine was still alive I would still do what I was told

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By *osheaMan  over a year ago

manchester

In Sweden your fine is based on your earnings the previous year. A few years ago they fined someone over 650K for speeding

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's based on his earnings..A £100 fine would have no impact on him, whereas a £100 fine for me would probably bankrupt me .. apparently, he earns £125,000 per week

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"This whole Ant drink driving story has got me annoyed. If that was your average joe who carried out this crime he/she would be branded a public menace who put everyone in danger and should be locked up. But because it’s a celebrity everyone whips out the sympathy saying he needs help to overcome this problem he has. It’s rediculous how can you brand two people whom have done the same thing with different reactions? (I’m basing this by everyone’s opinion on the matter at work yesterday) "

Your average Joe wouldn't have made the national media. They would however have been treated the same way by the judicial system. How the general public view them and their crime is a reflection of the world we live in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

That's a lot of money.

He really should have organised a taxi or a chaffeur.

He's got millions ... should of been more !

I was thinking the same - it's peanuts for him and accidents cause devastating life-long injuries, devastation as well as loss of lives. "

It represents half his weekly earnings. He will notice it but more than anything he seems genuinely remorseful.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in the same way.

Geeky x"

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

That's a lot of money.

He really should have organised a taxi or a chaffeur.

He's got millions ... should of been more !

I was thinking the same - it's peanuts for him and accidents cause devastating life-long injuries, devastation as well as loss of lives.

It represents half his weekly earnings. He will notice it but more than anything he seems genuinely remorseful. "

Most people are remorseful when they get caught. He may have problems but he has the means to address them too, he just needs the will and that comes from himself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Half a weeks salary for him. I got fined more than that (half a weeks wages that is) for doing 83mph on a 50mph dual carriageway.

Too lenient I say. "

Did you get a 20 month ban too?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings"

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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I appreciate he had just had a smash and would have looked a bit dazed anyway but when he was getting out of the car he actually looked pissed going by his eyes. Which makes me really surprised that his mother didn't take his car keys from him never mind getting into the car with him.

Maybe people were pandering to him even with his drink problem, so hopefully now this happened they will get a bit tougher as sometimes although we may want to...pandering doesn't help

Hopefully this will be the kick up the arse he needs

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"I appreciate he had just had a smash and would have looked a bit dazed anyway but when he was getting out of the car he actually looked pissed going by his eyes. Which makes me really surprised that his mother didn't take his car keys from him never mind getting into the car with him.

Maybe people were pandering to him even with his drink problem, so hopefully now this happened they will get a bit tougher as sometimes although we may want to...pandering doesn't help

Hopefully this will be the kick up the arse he needs "

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance "

If you have to miss work because of a car crash they have to pay out for that too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He should be lashed and jailed aswell..he could have killed someone..hes a twat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Cunt. Needs to Fuck off back to byker grove and take his mam and poxy dented up mini with him why ayeee

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!"

Let’s be factual..... the child was taken to hospital purely as a precautionary measure and was not hurt. I don’t condone his behaviour in anyway but equally we need to stick to facts. He’s been taken through the judicial system just as anyone else has. The outcome will have opinions as yours but the fact remains that it was deemed fitting for him to receive a hefty fine and continue with his treatment. His celebrity status doesn’t mean we make an example of him.

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By *aren1956TV/TS  over a year ago

Fakenham

That's a canny few bottles of broon bonny lad.....

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!

Let’s be factual..... the child was taken to hospital purely as a precautionary measure and was not hurt. I don’t condone his behaviour in anyway but equally we need to stick to facts. He’s been taken through the judicial system just as anyone else has. The outcome will have opinions as yours but the fact remains that it was deemed fitting for him to receive a hefty fine and continue with his treatment. His celebrity status doesn’t mean we make an example of him. "

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By *hips n FursMan  over a year ago

Huddersfield

He's been to court,pleaded guilt and sentenced. It's over and done with in my book. It's up to him to sort the rest of his life out.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance

If you have to miss work because of a car crash they have to pay out for that too"

Yes, happened to us

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!

Let’s be factual..... the child was taken to hospital purely as a precautionary measure and was not hurt. I don’t condone his behaviour in anyway but equally we need to stick to facts. He’s been taken through the judicial system just as anyone else has. The outcome will have opinions as yours but the fact remains that it was deemed fitting for him to receive a hefty fine and continue with his treatment. His celebrity status doesn’t mean we make an example of him. "

Exactly. The reality is there are people convicted of causing death by careless driving who don't get a custodial. People prosecuted for causing life altering injuries by dangerous driving rarely get a custodial.

He actually got a harsh sentence with a 20 month ban. The best thing that could come our of this is people realising that motorists who ruin lives by by breaking driving laws rarely receive more than a slap on the wrist and the punishments for drink driving are laughably inadequate. Sadly I expect people revelling in the downfall of a celebrity (and that's not just directed at this thread, it seems to be a widespread view) will have a shortlived interest in road safety and will more than likely be back complaining how speed cameras are a cash cow before too long.

Car culture means that as a society far too many people believe that they have a right to drive and forget that it's actually a privalege.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bless him. He's having a hard time "

My heart bleeds

Hard time or not, there's no excuse.

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By *offee and Cream 2Couple (MM)  over a year ago

Loughborough

In 5 years time Ant and Dec will be forgotten.

Unemployable now....

Poisoned chalice.

Once present contracts are fulfilled.

Chance of an alcoholic making a recovery are less than 2%

He will have blown all his fortune within a couple of years,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No sympathy, anyone who drink drives should be locked up, sorry to out a downer on this, but I lost my wife and unborn child to a drink driver

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"No sympathy, anyone who drink drives should be locked up, sorry to out a downer on this, but I lost my wife and unborn child to a drink driver"

Gosh so sorry to hear that...We had a d*unk driver hit us too, he was 4times over the limit, hubby had to give up work and is still suffering from his injuries

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I lost my old dog to a speeding driver.

38mph in a busy street the cunt!.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No sympathy, anyone who drink drives should be locked up, sorry to out a downer on this, but I lost my wife and unborn child to a drink driver

Gosh so sorry to hear that...We had a d*unk driver hit us too, he was 4times over the limit, hubby had to give up work and is still suffering from his injuries "

I have before now reported a customer when he refused to leave his car keys and pick them up the following day

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance

If you have to miss work because of a car crash they have to pay out for that too

Yes, happened to us "

I can't see your insurance paying out for loss of earnings if the collision is your fault whilst driving under the influence ?

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance

If you have to miss work because of a car crash they have to pay out for that too

Yes, happened to us

I can't see your insurance paying out for loss of earnings if the collision is your fault whilst driving under the influence ?"

I understood it to be loss of earnings to the victims of the crash.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance

If you have to miss work because of a car crash they have to pay out for that too

Yes, happened to us

I can't see your insurance paying out for loss of earnings if the collision is your fault whilst driving under the influence ?"

they won't for a fault accident, loss of earnings fall under uninsured loss claims and can't be recovered by the person at fault, only the non fault third party

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance

If you have to miss work because of a car crash they have to pay out for that too

Yes, happened to us

I can't see your insurance paying out for loss of earnings if the collision is your fault whilst driving under the influence ? they won't for a fault accident, loss of earnings fall under uninsured loss claims and can't be recovered by the person at fault, only the non fault third party"

Yes, this, Mr Landlord Because the guy was d*unk, in our case, his insurance became null and void, we were asked to claim through the Motor Insurance Bureau, took 5 years to settle the claim!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Let me firstly say that to anyone that’s been affected by drink driving, I offer up my sincerest of heartfelt sorries and wish we had the ability to change your outcomes. Life is cruel at times to the least expecting and deserving. I reiterate that I DO NOT condone Ants behaviour. However do I think he was behaving rationally and in sound mind? I do not. We cannot underestimate mental health that impairs judgement. We have not walked his shoes....... rather than tear him apart, mostly because of celebrity status (we forget he’s a human being too ) Being a celebrity doesn’t give him super powers. We must allow the judicial system that we vote for to do their job in whatever way they see fit. They have looked at all the evidence and dealt with it as they have felt appropriate. Ant has to deal with the devestation he’s caused not only to the family directly, but his colleague Dec and his fans. The weight of the world is upon his shoulders because he failed to make a rational decision that many feel he was capable of doing, I do not. But then let’s look at our decision making? Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Not one person on this thread is a shining example of perfect.

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By *arciocialWoman  over a year ago

Leicester

I don't condone the behaviour and believe the fine is justified when taking his income in to consideration. However, I don't believe his career should go downhill, he's taken responsibility and has been punished for it. No one bats an eyelid at the likes of Jimmy Carr, who can go on daytime and evening telly and joke about the fact he didn't pay his taxes. Yes I know they are completely different circumstances, but both broke the law and both have been punished for it. Everyone forgets what the likes of Jimmy Carr done as it's not something that is constantly advertised to put you off doing it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't condone the behaviour and believe the fine is justified when taking his income in to consideration. However, I don't believe his career should go downhill, he's taken responsibility and has been punished for it. No one bats an eyelid at the likes of Jimmy Carr, who can go on daytime and evening telly and joke about the fact he didn't pay his taxes. Yes I know they are completely different circumstances, but both broke the law and both have been punished for it. Everyone forgets what the likes of Jimmy Carr done as it's not something that is constantly advertised to put you off doing it. "
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Jimmy Carr didn't break any laws

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let me firstly say that to anyone that’s been affected by drink driving, I offer up my sincerest of heartfelt sorries and wish we had the ability to change your outcomes. Life is cruel at times to the least expecting and deserving. I reiterate that I DO NOT condone Ants behaviour. However do I think he was behaving rationally and in sound mind? I do not. We cannot underestimate mental health that impairs judgement. We have not walked his shoes....... rather than tear him apart, mostly because of celebrity status (we forget he’s a human being too ) Being a celebrity doesn’t give him super powers. We must allow the judicial system that we vote for to do their job in whatever way they see fit. They have looked at all the evidence and dealt with it as they have felt appropriate. Ant has to deal with the devestation he’s caused not only to the family directly, but his colleague Dec and his fans. The weight of the world is upon his shoulders because he failed to make a rational decision that many feel he was capable of doing, I do not. But then let’s look at our decision making? Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Not one person on this thread is a shining example of perfect.

"

Reads to me like you are condoning his behaviour. Leaving aside his celebrity status, what he did was dangerous. Lucky for him no one was seriously hurt, therefore he should be treated with the same contemp as any other drink driver.,

I'm sure he does have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Do I feel sorry for him? Nope.

Do I think he made a rational decision to drink and drive? Yes I do.

He's not the only person who deals and has dealt with problems.

I do. Every. Single. Day. And I'm not alone.

But I don't leave my 'glass house' after having a drink and drive my car. There is imho, nothing that justifies his behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let me firstly say that to anyone that’s been affected by drink driving, I offer up my sincerest of heartfelt sorries and wish we had the ability to change your outcomes. Life is cruel at times to the least expecting and deserving. I reiterate that I DO NOT condone Ants behaviour. However do I think he was behaving rationally and in sound mind? I do not. We cannot underestimate mental health that impairs judgement. We have not walked his shoes....... rather than tear him apart, mostly because of celebrity status (we forget he’s a human being too ) Being a celebrity doesn’t give him super powers. We must allow the judicial system that we vote for to do their job in whatever way they see fit. They have looked at all the evidence and dealt with it as they have felt appropriate. Ant has to deal with the devestation he’s caused not only to the family directly, but his colleague Dec and his fans. The weight of the world is upon his shoulders because he failed to make a rational decision that many feel he was capable of doing, I do not. But then let’s look at our decision making? Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Not one person on this thread is a shining example of perfect.

Reads to me like you are condoning his behaviour. Leaving aside his celebrity status, what he did was dangerous. Lucky for him no one was seriously hurt, therefore he should be treated with the same contemp as any other drink driver.,

I'm sure he does have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Do I feel sorry for him? Nope.

Do I think he made a rational decision to drink and drive? Yes I do.

He's not the only person who deals and has dealt with problems.

I do. Every. Single. Day. And I'm not alone.

But I don't leave my 'glass house' after having a drink and drive my car. There is imho, nothing that justifies his behaviour.

"

I don’t and will not ever condone drink driving. Everyone has to accept responsibility for their own choices and decisions of course they do. However we have to accept that there are influences around us that can impact on the validity of those decisions and choices we make. I have never intimated he should be treated any differently to any other drink driver however he has. The level of fine far out weighs anything I have ever seen before and if that the jo public would never have seen levied. For that reason alone I’d support him appealing. We cannot make an example of anyone just because of their position in life. The ability to pay should not be reason to issue a unquantifiable fine. Contempt for what has been committed is totally acceptable but not for the individual when he has been through the judicial system and given his punishment. It’s done! Let the guy get on and rebuild his life. Just because he’s in the public eye it does not and will not ever give us the right to publically dicect him piece by piece. He’s a human being who made a poor decision that by the grace of god did not have the consequences that could possibly have been far more serious. It still does not warrant the level of anger/hatred towards him. Forgiveness makes for a better person.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let me firstly say that to anyone that’s been affected by drink driving, I offer up my sincerest of heartfelt sorries and wish we had the ability to change your outcomes. Life is cruel at times to the least expecting and deserving. I reiterate that I DO NOT condone Ants behaviour. However do I think he was behaving rationally and in sound mind? I do not. We cannot underestimate mental health that impairs judgement. We have not walked his shoes....... rather than tear him apart, mostly because of celebrity status (we forget he’s a human being too ) Being a celebrity doesn’t give him super powers. We must allow the judicial system that we vote for to do their job in whatever way they see fit. They have looked at all the evidence and dealt with it as they have felt appropriate. Ant has to deal with the devestation he’s caused not only to the family directly, but his colleague Dec and his fans. The weight of the world is upon his shoulders because he failed to make a rational decision that many feel he was capable of doing, I do not. But then let’s look at our decision making? Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Not one person on this thread is a shining example of perfect.

Reads to me like you are condoning his behaviour. Leaving aside his celebrity status, what he did was dangerous. Lucky for him no one was seriously hurt, therefore he should be treated with the same contemp as any other drink driver.,

I'm sure he does have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Do I feel sorry for him? Nope.

Do I think he made a rational decision to drink and drive? Yes I do.

He's not the only person who deals and has dealt with problems.

I do. Every. Single. Day. And I'm not alone.

But I don't leave my 'glass house' after having a drink and drive my car. There is imho, nothing that justifies his behaviour.

"

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Ever broke the speed limit or had a quick phone call while driving?.

Messed around with the stereo, or shouted at the kids in the back?

We all do things that can have bad consequences, sometimes we chance life through bad decisions that seem passable at the time thinking everything will be ok.

He broke the law and has faced the consequences of breaking it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let me firstly say that to anyone that’s been affected by drink driving, I offer up my sincerest of heartfelt sorries and wish we had the ability to change your outcomes. Life is cruel at times to the least expecting and deserving. I reiterate that I DO NOT condone Ants behaviour. However do I think he was behaving rationally and in sound mind? I do not. We cannot underestimate mental health that impairs judgement. We have not walked his shoes....... rather than tear him apart, mostly because of celebrity status (we forget he’s a human being too ) Being a celebrity doesn’t give him super powers. We must allow the judicial system that we vote for to do their job in whatever way they see fit. They have looked at all the evidence and dealt with it as they have felt appropriate. Ant has to deal with the devestation he’s caused not only to the family directly, but his colleague Dec and his fans. The weight of the world is upon his shoulders because he failed to make a rational decision that many feel he was capable of doing, I do not. But then let’s look at our decision making? Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Not one person on this thread is a shining example of perfect.

Reads to me like you are condoning his behaviour. Leaving aside his celebrity status, what he did was dangerous. Lucky for him no one was seriously hurt, therefore he should be treated with the same contemp as any other drink driver.,

I'm sure he does have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Do I feel sorry for him? Nope.

Do I think he made a rational decision to drink and drive? Yes I do.

He's not the only person who deals and has dealt with problems.

I do. Every. Single. Day. And I'm not alone.

But I don't leave my 'glass house' after having a drink and drive my car. There is imho, nothing that justifies his behaviour.

I don’t and will not ever condone drink driving. Everyone has to accept responsibility for their own choices and decisions of course they do. However we have to accept that there are influences around us that can impact on the validity of those decisions and choices we make. I have never intimated he should be treated any differently to any other drink driver however he has. The level of fine far out weighs anything I have ever seen before and if that the jo public would never have seen levied. For that reason alone I’d support him appealing. We cannot make an example of anyone just because of their position in life. The ability to pay should not be reason to issue a unquantifiable fine. Contempt for what has been committed is totally acceptable but not for the individual when he has been through the judicial system and given his punishment. It’s done! Let the guy get on and rebuild his life. Just because he’s in the public eye it does not and will not ever give us the right to publically dicect him piece by piece. He’s a human being who made a poor decision that by the grace of god did not have the consequences that could possibly have been far more serious. It still does not warrant the level of anger/hatred towards him. Forgiveness makes for a better person. "

I don't hate him. But yes, because he is in the public eye, like most people caught DD (my local paper names and shames them every week even after justice has been sevrved) he deserves what he gets.

The man earns more than enough money to never have to drive himself. He shouldn't have done it. But he did. He made that choice. Therefore, being publicly dissected comes with the territory.

Mental health issues are not an excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let me firstly say that to anyone that’s been affected by drink driving, I offer up my sincerest of heartfelt sorries and wish we had the ability to change your outcomes. Life is cruel at times to the least expecting and deserving. I reiterate that I DO NOT condone Ants behaviour. However do I think he was behaving rationally and in sound mind? I do not. We cannot underestimate mental health that impairs judgement. We have not walked his shoes....... rather than tear him apart, mostly because of celebrity status (we forget he’s a human being too ) Being a celebrity doesn’t give him super powers. We must allow the judicial system that we vote for to do their job in whatever way they see fit. They have looked at all the evidence and dealt with it as they have felt appropriate. Ant has to deal with the devestation he’s caused not only to the family directly, but his colleague Dec and his fans. The weight of the world is upon his shoulders because he failed to make a rational decision that many feel he was capable of doing, I do not. But then let’s look at our decision making? Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Not one person on this thread is a shining example of perfect.

Reads to me like you are condoning his behaviour. Leaving aside his celebrity status, what he did was dangerous. Lucky for him no one was seriously hurt, therefore he should be treated with the same contemp as any other drink driver.,

I'm sure he does have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Do I feel sorry for him? Nope.

Do I think he made a rational decision to drink and drive? Yes I do.

He's not the only person who deals and has dealt with problems.

I do. Every. Single. Day. And I'm not alone.

But I don't leave my 'glass house' after having a drink and drive my car. There is imho, nothing that justifies his behaviour.

I don’t and will not ever condone drink driving. Everyone has to accept responsibility for their own choices and decisions of course they do. However we have to accept that there are influences around us that can impact on the validity of those decisions and choices we make. I have never intimated he should be treated any differently to any other drink driver however he has. The level of fine far out weighs anything I have ever seen before and if that the jo public would never have seen levied. For that reason alone I’d support him appealing. We cannot make an example of anyone just because of their position in life. The ability to pay should not be reason to issue a unquantifiable fine. Contempt for what has been committed is totally acceptable but not for the individual when he has been through the judicial system and given his punishment. It’s done! Let the guy get on and rebuild his life. Just because he’s in the public eye it does not and will not ever give us the right to publically dicect him piece by piece. He’s a human being who made a poor decision that by the grace of god did not have the consequences that could possibly have been far more serious. It still does not warrant the level of anger/hatred towards him. Forgiveness makes for a better person.

I don't hate him. But yes, because he is in the public eye, like most people caught DD (my local paper names and shames them every week even after justice has been sevrved) he deserves what he gets.

The man earns more than enough money to never have to drive himself. He shouldn't have done it. But he did. He made that choice. Therefore, being publicly dissected comes with the territory.

Mental health issues are not an excuse.

"

Then I sincerely hope that mental health never touches your life if you’re so naive to think that it doesn’t impact on the individual, in far more reaching ways than a poor decision. I wish you well. I love the freedom of speech our democracy offers and therefore accept that we will have to agree to differ on this occasion...... I will always stand behind the individual who stands up to his failings and is judged within the law of the land as it currently stands. Accepts his punishment and strives to heal himself. Forgiveness is powerful

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes drink driving is totally wrong. He shouldn't of done it, we all know that.

But for goodness sake, the man is mentally ill. He isn't in the right state of mind at all to make decisions. His brain is ill, it isn't capable of making decisions like a healthy brain. People with a healthy mind make bad decisions every day, the man deserves support.

If a person broke their leg, would you expect that person to still be able to walk in exactly the same way as they did before they broke their leg? The answer is clearly no, yet with a mental health illness people expect you to be able to be exactly the same.

He has been punished and now I sincerely hope that he receives the help and support that he so desperately needs to get back to good health again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes drink driving is totally wrong. He shouldn't of done it, we all know that.

But for goodness sake, the man is mentally ill. He isn't in the right state of mind at all to make decisions. His brain is ill, it isn't capable of making decisions like a healthy brain. People with a healthy mind make bad decisions every day, the man deserves support.

If a person broke their leg, would you expect that person to still be able to walk in exactly the same way as they did before they broke their leg? The answer is clearly no, yet with a mental health illness people expect you to be able to be exactly the same.

He has been punished and now I sincerely hope that he receives the help and support that he so desperately needs to get back to good health again. "

Well said hunny xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't hate him. But yes, because he is in the public eye, like most people caught DD (my local paper names and shames them every week even after justice has been sevrved) he deserves what he gets.

The man earns more than enough money to never have to drive himself. He shouldn't have done it. But he did. He made that choice. Therefore, being publicly dissected comes with the territory.

Mental health issues are not an excuse.

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You're very right, mental health isn't an excuse, it is however a reason.

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan  over a year ago

london

He earns over £15,000,000 last year so the fine works out about 2 days money

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He earns over £15,000,000 last year so the fine works out about 2 days money"

The ability to pay should not be used as a reason to levy a higher fine. That’s not a fair penal system.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bless him. He's having a hard time

My heart bleeds

Hard time or not, there's no excuse."

I was being sarcastic

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Having said that, I can see lawsuits coming on from the families involved, one of the ladies said she hasn’t been able to work for the last month, had this had been a normal guy or girl then I do wonder if the families would still be reacting in

Geeky x

It was quite a smash going by the looks of the cars. His insurance will cover any damage and loss of earnings

It's car insurance not loss of earnings insurance

If you have to miss work because of a car crash they have to pay out for that too

Yes, happened to us

I can't see your insurance paying out for loss of earnings if the collision is your fault whilst driving under the influence ?"

The comments were about the original comment that was quoted, ie about the people the d*unken driver hit

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan  over a year ago

london


"He earns over £15,000,000 last year so the fine works out about 2 days money

The ability to pay should not be used as a reason to levy a higher fine. That’s not a fair penal system. "

I disagree

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He earns over £15,000,000 last year so the fine works out about 2 days money

The ability to pay should not be used as a reason to levy a higher fine. That’s not a fair penal system.

I disagree"

Which you’re entitled to do! I’m happy to disagree

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"He earns over £15,000,000 last year so the fine works out about 2 days money

The ability to pay should not be used as a reason to levy a higher fine. That’s not a fair penal system.

I disagree

Which you’re entitled to do! I’m happy to disagree "

But that is how the law works and is why he was fined £86k.....its proportionate to what you earn now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bring back hanging !"

That's a little extreme don't you think?

A jail sentence perhaps but hanging?!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Bring back hanging !

That's a little extreme don't you think?

A jail sentence perhaps but hanging?!"

Jail is extreme in this case. If we fill the jails up with drink drivers where will we put the murderers?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bring back hanging !

That's a little extreme don't you think?

A jail sentence perhaps but hanging?!"

A jail sentence isn't the right treatment for a man who is very ill. He needs help.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let me firstly say that to anyone that’s been affected by drink driving, I offer up my sincerest of heartfelt sorries and wish we had the ability to change your outcomes. Life is cruel at times to the least expecting and deserving. I reiterate that I DO NOT condone Ants behaviour. However do I think he was behaving rationally and in sound mind? I do not. We cannot underestimate mental health that impairs judgement. We have not walked his shoes....... rather than tear him apart, mostly because of celebrity status (we forget he’s a human being too ) Being a celebrity doesn’t give him super powers. We must allow the judicial system that we vote for to do their job in whatever way they see fit. They have looked at all the evidence and dealt with it as they have felt appropriate. Ant has to deal with the devestation he’s caused not only to the family directly, but his colleague Dec and his fans. The weight of the world is upon his shoulders because he failed to make a rational decision that many feel he was capable of doing, I do not. But then let’s look at our decision making? Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Not one person on this thread is a shining example of perfect.

Reads to me like you are condoning his behaviour. Leaving aside his celebrity status, what he did was dangerous. Lucky for him no one was seriously hurt, therefore he should be treated with the same contemp as any other drink driver.,

I'm sure he does have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Do I feel sorry for him? Nope.

Do I think he made a rational decision to drink and drive? Yes I do.

He's not the only person who deals and has dealt with problems.

I do. Every. Single. Day. And I'm not alone.

But I don't leave my 'glass house' after having a drink and drive my car. There is imho, nothing that justifies his behaviour.

I don’t and will not ever condone drink driving. Everyone has to accept responsibility for their own choices and decisions of course they do. However we have to accept that there are influences around us that can impact on the validity of those decisions and choices we make. I have never intimated he should be treated any differently to any other drink driver however he has. The level of fine far out weighs anything I have ever seen before and if that the jo public would never have seen levied. For that reason alone I’d support him appealing. We cannot make an example of anyone just because of their position in life. The ability to pay should not be reason to issue a unquantifiable fine. Contempt for what has been committed is totally acceptable but not for the individual when he has been through the judicial system and given his punishment. It’s done! Let the guy get on and rebuild his life. Just because he’s in the public eye it does not and will not ever give us the right to publically dicect him piece by piece. He’s a human being who made a poor decision that by the grace of god did not have the consequences that could possibly have been far more serious. It still does not warrant the level of anger/hatred towards him. Forgiveness makes for a better person.

I don't hate him. But yes, because he is in the public eye, like most people caught DD (my local paper names and shames them every week even after justice has been sevrved) he deserves what he gets.

The man earns more than enough money to never have to drive himself. He shouldn't have done it. But he did. He made that choice. Therefore, being publicly dissected comes with the territory.

Mental health issues are not an excuse.

Then I sincerely hope that mental health never touches your life if you’re so naive to think that it doesn’t impact on the individual, in far more reaching ways than a poor decision. I wish you well. I love the freedom of speech our democracy offers and therefore accept that we will have to agree to differ on this occasion...... I will always stand behind the individual who stands up to his failings and is judged within the law of the land as it currently stands. Accepts his punishment and strives to heal himself. Forgiveness is powerful "

It does touch me. Like I said before. All the time.

But it doesn't stop me knowing right from wrong.

And when he has served his punishment then of course he should be able to move on with his life. He hasn't yet,

And yes we have a difference in opinion and I respect that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have read his mother was in the car with him? , could she not tell he was d*unk ? , or am I missing something !! . Twice over the legal limit , sorry but I think he should not be behind a wheel again ...

My personal opinion ....

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"I have read his mother was in the car with him? , could she not tell he was d*unk ? , or am I missing something !! . Twice over the legal limit , sorry but I think he should not be behind a wheel again ...

My personal opinion .... "

Do people not think that alcoholics go to extreme lengths to conceal their drinking?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bring back hanging !

That's a little extreme don't you think?

A jail sentence perhaps but hanging?!

A jail sentence isn't the right treatment for a man who is very ill. He needs help."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just an observation on this thread, the thoughtful and reasoned comments are largely written by ladies, whereas most of the "hang him high, lock him up and throw away the key" comments are written by men.

It seems that men do indeed have issues with being realistic about mental health issues.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have read his mother was in the car with him? , could she not tell he was d*unk ? , or am I missing something !! . Twice over the legal limit , sorry but I think he should not be behind a wheel again ...

My personal opinion .... "

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up"

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

"

I thought it was a 20 month ban.

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By *ornLordMan  over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

I thought it was a 20 month ban."

That's what I understood. And yes, £86k is pennies for these folk.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

I thought it was a 20 month ban."

Mabey i miss hard it but my point still lies....

If anyone else did wot he did thay wood never be alowed in a car agen. If not locked up for it to.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

"

They really wouldn't be banned for life or behind bars. All judges have guidelines for sentencing that they have to adhere to.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

I thought it was a 20 month ban.

Mabey i miss hard it but my point still lies....

If anyone else did wot he did thay wood never be alowed in a car agen. If not locked up for it to."

I don't agree I'm sure a judge wouldn't have shown him leniency just because he's on the telly.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

They really wouldn't be banned for life or behind bars. All judges have guidelines for sentencing that they have to adhere to. "

Sum People get locked up just for owing the tax man 10p

He nearly killed sumone !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do think that people expressing surprise that his mother was in th car are possibly unaware of just how devious alcoholics can be and/or how difficult it can be to challenge an addict on denial about their behaviour.

I very much doubt she got on the car having watched him drink a few pints over lunch

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

They really wouldn't be banned for life or behind bars. All judges have guidelines for sentencing that they have to adhere to.

Sum People get locked up just for owing the tax man 10p

He nearly killed sumone !"

he didn't nearly kill anyone. One person went to hospital as a precaution. People don;t get punished for what could have happened

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

They really wouldn't be banned for life or behind bars. All judges have guidelines for sentencing that they have to adhere to.

Sum People get locked up just for owing the tax man 10p

He nearly killed sumone !"

Again, they don't.

Sorry see side hut its this knee jerk, inflammatory dialogue that blows things way out of proportion.

He didn't nearly kill someone, no one was hurt at all.

I think he was a twat for drink driving and deserves the punishment he got but no more.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

he was d*unk behind the wheel, he lost control, someone couldve been killed or seriously injured. he was very very lucky. drink drivers should banned instantly 1st offence, 2nd time around a life ban.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"he was d*unk behind the wheel, he lost control, someone couldve been killed or seriously injured. he was very very lucky. drink drivers should banned instantly 1st offence, 2nd time around a life ban. "

He has been banned..... For 20 months.....

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

They really wouldn't be banned for life or behind bars. All judges have guidelines for sentencing that they have to adhere to.

Sum People get locked up just for owing the tax man 10p

He nearly killed sumone !

Again, they don't.

Sorry see side hut its this knee jerk, inflammatory dialogue that blows things way out of proportion.

He didn't nearly kill someone, no one was hurt at all.

I think he was a twat for drink driving and deserves the punishment he got but no more. "

Ok i gess i must have miss hard sumthing sumwear... ???

But i still think he's got of lite.

Anyway let's keep it friendly and agree to disagree on this 1.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

They really wouldn't be banned for life or behind bars. All judges have guidelines for sentencing that they have to adhere to.

Sum People get locked up just for owing the tax man 10p

He nearly killed sumone !

Again, they don't.

Sorry see side hut its this knee jerk, inflammatory dialogue that blows things way out of proportion.

He didn't nearly kill someone, no one was hurt at all.

I think he was a twat for drink driving and deserves the punishment he got but no more.

Ok i gess i must have miss hard sumthing sumwear... ???

But i still think he's got of lite.

Anyway let's keep it friendly and agree to disagree on this 1."

I was being friendly

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

Think he gets mor than that in a weeks wage.

It's pennies to him.

If anybody els did wot he did thay wood be band from driving for life or behind bars/in jail or both.

So y has he just got a fine and a 2-3 months ban ?

They really wouldn't be banned for life or behind bars. All judges have guidelines for sentencing that they have to adhere to.

Sum People get locked up just for owing the tax man 10p

He nearly killed sumone !

Again, they don't.

Sorry see side hut its this knee jerk, inflammatory dialogue that blows things way out of proportion.

He didn't nearly kill someone, no one was hurt at all.

I think he was a twat for drink driving and deserves the punishment he got but no more.

Ok i gess i must have miss hard sumthing sumwear... ???

But i still think he's got of lite.

Anyway let's keep it friendly and agree to disagree on this 1.

I was being friendly "

So am i lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"he was d*unk behind the wheel, he lost control, someone couldve been killed or seriously injured. he was very very lucky. drink drivers should banned instantly 1st offence, 2nd time around a life ban. "

I've long said a second ban should be an automatic life ban. Be that for drink driving, speeding, whatever but anyone no one who has ever been banned twice is not safe on the roads, it's not a one off, it's not unlucky, it's persistently driving dangerously.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"£86000 that was an expensive piss up

That's a lot of money.

He really should have organised a taxi or a chaffeur.

He's got millions ... should of been more !"

why??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

"

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

"

When Wayne Rooney got caught drink driving he got fined £170 some difference like.

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By *eryBigGirlWoman  over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Honestly there must be so many perfect people on here and I’d bet most have driven over the legal driving limit on many occasions because most have no idea actually how much even puts you over the limit!!

Yes he was wrong to do what he did but no one was hurt and he’s paying the price and got the fine and ban but he doesnt deserve the abuse he’s getting!!

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By *arciocialWoman  over a year ago

Leicester


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

When Wayne Rooney got caught drink driving he got fined £170 some difference like. "

And still plays football with people cheering him on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

When Wayne Rooney got caught drink driving he got fined £170 some difference like.

And still plays football with people cheering him on."

and he will still be cheered on when he returns to tv

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"I have read his mother was in the car with him? , could she not tell he was d*unk ? , or am I missing something !! . Twice over the legal limit , sorry but I think he should not be behind a wheel again ...

My personal opinion ....

Do people not think that alcoholics go to extreme lengths to conceal their drinking? "

He didn't conceal it very well, he looked pissed as he got out of the car

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree with a fine ,loss of licence , community service and so forth but the amount he was fined is extortionate especially as someone on the dole in similar circumstances would probably get off the fine after pleading poverty

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By *arciocialWoman  over a year ago

Leicester


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting... "

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly there must be so many perfect people on here and I’d bet most have driven over the legal driving limit on many occasions because most have no idea actually how much even puts you over the limit!!

Yes he was wrong to do what he did but no one was hurt and he’s paying the price and got the fine and ban but he doesnt deserve the abuse he’s getting!!"

you actually trying to justify him doing it because you 'assume' most people on here drink drive????

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately."

as iv said earlier, alot as gone unreported.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately."

ps and whats fame got to do with it all???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could have got a custodial for being that wankered and hurting a child. I bet there's a few in prison for similar offences raising an eye!

"

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"Honestly there must be so many perfect people on here and I’d bet most have driven over the legal driving limit on many occasions because most have no idea actually how much even puts you over the limit!!

"

Never for me, sorry if that makes me perfect but I see it as being an adult who thinks drinking and driving don't mix

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By *arciocialWoman  over a year ago

Leicester


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately.

as iv said earlier, alot as gone unreported. "

Like what? You really think the press would miss out on an opportunity to belittle him right now!

Fame has a lot to do with it. It's a career you enter and can't easily get away from because of the press!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately.

as iv said earlier, alot as gone unreported. "

That just sounds like speculation to me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly there must be so many perfect people on here and I’d bet most have driven over the legal driving limit on many occasions because most have no idea actually how much even puts you over the limit!!

Never for me, sorry if that makes me perfect but I see it as being an adult who thinks drinking and driving don't mix"

well said

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately.

as iv said earlier, alot as gone unreported. "

How do you know?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately.

as iv said earlier, alot as gone unreported.

That just sounds like speculation to me "

sounds like a alot of super injunctions to me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately.

as iv said earlier, alot as gone unreported.

How do you know? "

i just know, im not allowed to say but it will come out eventually an then people will realise he has messed up on SEVERAL occasions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly there must be so many perfect people on here and I’d bet most have driven over the legal driving limit on many occasions because most have no idea actually how much even puts you over the limit!!

Never for me, sorry if that makes me perfect but I see it as being an adult who thinks drinking and driving don't mix"

Nor me. At most I have a pint early in the night and only then if I know it'll be a few hours before I driving home. Amd in the days I drank a lot more then I never even drove on a morning just to be sure.

And that's the norm for people I know. I find the suggestion that most people accidentally drink drive pretty shocking

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By *eryBigGirlWoman  over a year ago

East Yorkshire


"Honestly there must be so many perfect people on here and I’d bet most have driven over the legal driving limit on many occasions because most have no idea actually how much even puts you over the limit!!

Yes he was wrong to do what he did but no one was hurt and he’s paying the price and got the fine and ban but he doesnt deserve the abuse he’s getting!!

you actually trying to justify him doing it because you 'assume' most people on here drink drive????"

No in no way am I justifying what he’s done as I said he was wrong. What I’m saying is most will have driven over the legal limit because they don’t know what it is. Stones and glass houses was the point I was making!!

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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i just know, im not allowed to say but it will come out eventually an then people will realise he has messed up on SEVERAL occasions. "

That is wise

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I personally think the lady in the car he hit is laying it on a bit thick in the papers today saying the experience has left her not able to work I personally think she's milking it for compo and getting her 15 mins from the media sad as it is the child was in the car he will bounce back and I know this from experience as I had someone ram into me on two different occasions with my kids in rear seats luckily no physical damage sustained to any of us and after initial shock no mental damage

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By *arciocialWoman  over a year ago

Leicester

Really think people will believe stuff that comes out months later, if it's something that should have come out sooner. I would just see it as the press being bored an wanting to personally attack!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny how the papers choose who they report on though as some footballer was in court today after crashing in Sunderland and being found 3 times over the limit. He's still waiting on his sentence

I don't agree with what ant did at all but I also don't agree with ripping him to pieces when he's already at the lowest point he can be.

theres also alot of stuff gone unreported, hes had several chances, and he continues to make bad choices, people are fed up with the chances hes getting...

What bad choices exactly? Putting himself into rehab after admitting he had a problem with medication. To me that is a good choice. The only thing I think he should have done is take some time out before rushing back in to the limelight. But that's fame for you unfortunately.

as iv said earlier, alot as gone unreported.

How do you know?

i just know, im not allowed to say but it will come out eventually an then people will realise he has messed up on SEVERAL occasions. "

He's an addict. He's admitted that. His marriage has fallen apart. He's just bring convicted of drink dribing. I think most people realise that these will be the culmination of a shit load of other incidents. It's not hard to analyse really is it?

If you genuinely know more than that then hinting at it on a swinger's site monitored by the tabloids seems pretty daft to me

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