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By *now white1000 OP   Woman  over a year ago

York

Forcing trans men and trans women to use the toilets of their birth gender has moved a step closer.

Honestly, would the ladies really want a bloke with full beard using the ladies toilets?

would the men really want a woman (convincing or otherwise) sitting in their only cubicle?

In California it's moved a step closer and they are going to 'reward the public with cash' to grass up anyone they find using the 'wrong' toilets.

I'm pretty sure i don't want anyone trying to peek at my genitalia whilst i'm using the toilets

This could even encourage the return of 'cottaging' on the pretence of making sure a toilet user was not breaking the gender law!!

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By *now white1000 OP   Woman  over a year ago

York

And just for info, the ratio of men transitioning to female and women who transition to male is actually just under a 50/50 split, not the common misconception that 95% are male to female.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Leon restaurant I sometimes visit has unisex toilets.

All cubicles.

Never found it uncomfortable but then I'm not going to stick around for long.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To quote Ray Davies

'Girls will be boys and boys will be girls

It's a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for Lola

La-la-la-la Lola'

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By *anchestercubMan  over a year ago

manchester & NI

Nothing that comes from the US surprises me.

There's a story today of a schoolgirl who had her t-shirt photoshopped out of a photograph because it said 'feminist'!

I do think the trans-bathroom issue is a grey area. However my own view is that they should use the bathroom they feel most comfortable with.

Asking people to snitch on them will only increase the misplaced sense of 'fear' or 'suspicion' that a lot of people have about trans folks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's mad really that any society forces people to use a certain toilet based on your gender, reeks of segregation.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm surprised that it's California,

I thought they were one of the more liberal States

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By *now white1000 OP   Woman  over a year ago

York


"I'm surprised that it's California,

I thought they were one of the more liberal States "

unfortunately i'm not allowed to post the link here, // trib.al / 8FHz S7B

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who's the governor of California?

Jerry Brown right?

Isn't he a democrat?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Or it could eventually help towards creating a nationwide culture that views the transgender community as the normal people they are.....

Even the longest journeys starts with the first step.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It doesn't really bother me, in fact last time I was out clubbing I was helped by a trans man in the toilets so imagine if they weren't allowed in there! I'd of been stuffed!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Don't know what to make of this -surely if a woman looks like a woman and uses a loo nobody would be any the wiser?

Can't see how there can be any 'right' answer though except for unisex loos with cubicles.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Whenever I've been glammed up and used the ladies no one has batted an eyelid. On the contrary, I often end up having some lovely chats in there whilst I'm sorting out my make up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's mad really that any society forces people to use a certain toilet based on your gender, reeks of segregation."

Be grateful for it. The state some blokes leave a toilet in, you wouldn't want to be within 100ft of the blast zone.

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS  over a year ago

bournmouth/poole/Blandford

america.. the country where you can be thrown in jail for collecting rainwater and growing your own food ..what a shit-hole

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By *.nottsbloke..Man  over a year ago

visiter

Its not like u can see anything in a cubicle

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its not like u can see anything in a cubicle "

Maybe not...but the noise! Almost as bad as the smells!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's mad really that any society forces people to use a certain toilet based on your gender, reeks of segregation.

Be grateful for it. The state some blokes leave a toilet in, you wouldn't want to be within 100ft of the blast zone. "

I have 3 sons, got some idea what state a toilet might be left in.

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By *izzlemoonMan  over a year ago

Bath

It seems there should be a balance between both but you'll always have people who are uncomfortable. a trans person should be allowed to use which toilet they feel comfortable with but you can't expect others to be comfortable with the idea as you'd expect in a world full of individuals with equally valid viewpoints.

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By *hechairman18Man  over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

I didn't know they had toilets/lavatory's in America.

Thought they only had 'Restrooms' and 'Bathrooms'?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's mad really that any society forces people to use a certain toilet based on your gender, reeks of segregation.

Be grateful for it. The state some blokes leave a toilet in, you wouldn't want to be within 100ft of the blast zone. "

As a former bar manager abroad - trust me = I'd rather clean the Gents at the end of the night over the ladies -curry guts or otherwise!

You really wouldn't believe some of the things that used to get fished out when the drains got blocked....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"america.. the country where you can be thrown in jail for collecting rainwater and growing your own food ..what a shit-hole"

Please tell me how you really feel about America...

I don't think you made your point.

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS  over a year ago

bournmouth/poole/Blandford

but then on the plus side they are doing great work with transgender kids as shown on the louis theroux program the other day

im not fussed who uses them to be honeest .im happy to have unisex loos

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