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Evening all. Frequent driver in to London to watch West Ham (I’ll fight anyone who says anything lol). I usually park near the O2 and tube it in. With the new ULEZ coming into effect today, I’ve checked my vehicle reg and according to the site, the only charges I will pay is if I were to travel within the congestion charge zone. Am I reading it correctly? and if my car fell out of the ULEZ requirements, I’d also have to pay to drive outside the congestion zone?
I think I’m right, but if any London drivers with info know for certain, it would be appreciated  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thank yooooo  "
Its a pain the butt is what I know. 
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford. |
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
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" if my car fell out of the ULEZ requirements, I’d also have to pay to drive outside the congestion zone?
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The congestion zone is anywhere within the north/south circular rds. If yr car didn't meet the requirements yr still ok to drive outside the zone but pay heftily if u enter it. |
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over a year ago
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" if my car fell out of the ULEZ requirements, I’d also have to pay to drive outside the congestion zone?
The congestion zone is anywhere within the north/south circular rds. If yr car didn't meet the requirements yr still ok to drive outside the zone but pay heftily if u enter it."
The congestion zone has not been extended that is completely different to the ULEZ.
Everybody pays the congestion charge regardless of the type of vehicle and also the ULEZ on top. |
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford. "
If the money goes back in to the city (yeah I know lol) it’ll be worth it x |
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over a year ago
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford.
If the money goes back in to the city (yeah I know lol) it’ll be worth it x"
Agreed. |
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford.
If the money goes back in to the city (yeah I know lol) it’ll be worth it x
Agreed. "
So If my car didn’t meet the criteria, I’d have to pay the ULEZ charge as well as congestion charge if I went into the city? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford.
If the money goes back in to the city (yeah I know lol) it’ll be worth it x
Agreed.
So If my car didn’t meet the criteria, I’d have to pay the ULEZ charge as well as congestion charge if I went into the city? "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford.
If the money goes back in to the city (yeah I know lol) it’ll be worth it x
Agreed.
So If my car didn’t meet the criteria, I’d have to pay the ULEZ charge as well as congestion charge if I went into the city?
Yep! "
If you have a non compliant car are you drive-in to the congestion zone you pay I think it's nearly 30 quid. |
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford.
If the money goes back in to the city (yeah I know lol) it’ll be worth it x
Agreed.
So If my car didn’t meet the criteria, I’d have to pay the ULEZ charge as well as congestion charge if I went into the city?
Yep!
If you have a non compliant car are you drive-in to the congestion zone you pay I think it's nearly 30 quid. "
In that case, you’d be better off getting the train lol x |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford.
If the money goes back in to the city (yeah I know lol) it’ll be worth it x
Agreed.
So If my car didn’t meet the criteria, I’d have to pay the ULEZ charge as well as congestion charge if I went into the city?
Yep!
If you have a non compliant car are you drive-in to the congestion zone you pay I think it's nearly 30 quid.
In that case, you’d be better off getting the train lol x"
We don't drive so it's not an issue for us but know people who are affected by this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
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No because they usually carry multiple people and if we tax everything nobody will be able to get around anywhere. |
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" if my car fell out of the ULEZ requirements, I’d also have to pay to drive outside the congestion zone?
The congestion zone is anywhere within the north/south circular rds. If yr car didn't meet the requirements yr still ok to drive outside the zone but pay heftily if u enter it."
So if I drive along the marylebone.. Is that in or out of the congestion zone? |
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" if my car fell out of the ULEZ requirements, I’d also have to pay to drive outside the congestion zone?
The congestion zone is anywhere within the north/south circular rds. If yr car didn't meet the requirements yr still ok to drive outside the zone but pay heftily if u enter it.
So if I drive along the marylebone.. Is that in or out of the congestion zone? "
That is and has for a while been in the congestion and ULEZ zone.
The congestion zone hasn't changed it's only been ULEZ that has been extended. |
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"It's all about the money"
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge. |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
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Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair "
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday  |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday "
Of course you can run, will save you paying the charge |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday
Of course you can run, will save you paying the charge "
Haha!!! Well from a hammer's perspective, it’s always a giggle beating the spuds  |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday
Of course you can run, will save you paying the charge
Haha!!! Well from a hammer's perspective, it’s always a giggle beating the spuds "
I’m well tuned to you guys upsetting the apple cart, but hey it gives you something to party for that night |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday
Of course you can run, will save you paying the charge
Haha!!! Well from a hammer's perspective, it’s always a giggle beating the spuds
I’m well tuned to you guys upsetting the apple cart, but hey it gives you something to party for that night "
Seeing some of the meltdowns from the spuds YouTubers is comedy gold lol x |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair "
That's how stealthily. they move around
The Thames, Regents canal, behind Kings cross, the rivers lea/Lee for example. |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
That's how stealthily. they move around
The Thames, Regents canal, behind Kings cross, the rivers lea/Lee for example."
I know where the canals are, they aren’t exactly the hive of activity |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday "
I will join you in that. |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday
I will join you in that. "
We’re mobbed up |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford. "
As a Londoner who lives just outside the charging zone I fear our air will become more polluted with vehicles driving around the zone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thank yooooo
Its a pain the butt is what I know.
Totally understand the reasons for it and as a Londoner I probably will benefit from cleaner air But it is a charge a lot cannot afford.
As a Londoner who lives just outside the charging zone I fear our air will become more polluted with vehicles driving around the zone."
Exactly the same here. We are just outside it too. We are not far from the M11 and today the traffic was worse than ever. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday
I will join you in that.
We’re mobbed up "
Come on you Irons. |
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"It's all about the money
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge. "
Do you really think when everyone is driving an electric car they will still be free in the congestion zone? |
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"Am I right in thinking that none of this applies to diesel trains, ships, generators or narrow boats? Should they be bound by the same rules and charges, after all it's the same fuel going in and the same fumes coming out, or have I got that wrong?
Don’t see a lot of them on London roads to be fair
Yeah Victorian London was so 1800’s lol.
Off topic, but can I run in the joy of beating your mob yesterday
I will join you in that.
We’re mobbed up
Come on you Irons. "
You know it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's all about the money
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge.
Do you really think when everyone is driving an electric car they will still be free in the congestion zone?"
Well they are now and as most cars are exempt I thing yes they will still be free. |
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"It's all about the money
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge.
Do you really think when everyone is driving an electric car they will still be free in the congestion zone?"
Nope it is talked or planned they will start paying in 2025 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's all about the money
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge.
Do you really think when everyone is driving an electric car they will still be free in the congestion zone?
Nope it is talked or planned they will start paying in 2025 "
Only for hybrids not for fully electric vehicles from what I have just read. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This and the congestion charge. Nothing but another tax on the low income. I wouldn't mind but we don't have a quality cheap public transport network running 24/7 as an alternative.
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"It's all about the money
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge.
Do you really think when everyone is driving an electric car they will still be free in the congestion zone?
Nope it is talked or planned they will start paying in 2025
Only for hybrids not for fully electric vehicles from what I have just read. "
That is now and exemptions last until 2025 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's all about the money
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge.
Do you really think when everyone is driving an electric car they will still be free in the congestion zone?
Nope it is talked or planned they will start paying in 2025
Only for hybrids not for fully electric vehicles from what I have just read.
That is now and exemptions last until 2025 "
No that is what is being proposed for 2025 that only fully electric vehicles will be exempt where as that the moment hybrids and newer models are also exempt. |
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"This and the congestion charge. Nothing but another tax on the low income. I wouldn't mind but we don't have a quality cheap public transport network running 24/7 as an alternative.
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I agree it's not quality but London transport is the cheapest by far in the country. |
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"That's why I take the underground.
I'm glad that this is not something I have to worry about either. "
Yes until it is made fully accessible it is very difficult. |
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"That's why I take the underground.
I'm glad that this is not something I have to worry about either.
Yes until it is made fully accessible it is very difficult. "
The problem is that punitive measures are put in place before things are accessible. They keep threatening the same sort of thing here in Manchester. I cannot get on a single train within a six/seven mile radius of my house, as stations are not accessible. If they put such charges in place here, I will no longer be able to afford to go to my job in the city centre. I will literally have to quit my job and all because I have the audacity to need a get from A to B on wheels.
Cycling? Doesn't help people like me. Walking? Same. Get public transport (right now) also deeply unhelpful. What are disabled people supposed to do in London now? They can't rely on the underground or overground trains - many stations are inaccessible. |
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"It's all about the money
I don't necessarily agree with that because the aim is that nobody would pay it.
1 in 5 cars currently have to pay the charge.
Do you really think when everyone is driving an electric car they will still be free in the congestion zone?
Nope it is talked or planned they will start paying in 2025
Only for hybrids not for fully electric vehicles from what I have just read.
That is now and exemptions last until 2025
No that is what is being proposed for 2025 that only fully electric vehicles will be exempt where as that the moment hybrids and newer models are also exempt. "
You read it one way I read it differently. We’ll see in 2025 |
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"That's why I take the underground.
I'm glad that this is not something I have to worry about either.
Yes until it is made fully accessible it is very difficult.
The problem is that punitive measures are put in place before things are accessible. They keep threatening the same sort of thing here in Manchester. I cannot get on a single train within a six/seven mile radius of my house, as stations are not accessible. If they put such charges in place here, I will no longer be able to afford to go to my job in the city centre. I will literally have to quit my job and all because I have the audacity to need a get from A to B on wheels.
Cycling? Doesn't help people like me. Walking? Same. Get public transport (right now) also deeply unhelpful. What are disabled people supposed to do in London now? They can't rely on the underground or overground trains - many stations are inaccessible. "
Until 2025 Blue badge holders are exempt from the charges but not sure what's gonna happen then if they don't have compliant cars. |
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"That's why I take the underground.
I'm glad that this is not something I have to worry about either.
Yes until it is made fully accessible it is very difficult.
The problem is that punitive measures are put in place before things are accessible. They keep threatening the same sort of thing here in Manchester. I cannot get on a single train within a six/seven mile radius of my house, as stations are not accessible. If they put such charges in place here, I will no longer be able to afford to go to my job in the city centre. I will literally have to quit my job and all because I have the audacity to need a get from A to B on wheels.
Cycling? Doesn't help people like me. Walking? Same. Get public transport (right now) also deeply unhelpful. What are disabled people supposed to do in London now? They can't rely on the underground or overground trains - many stations are inaccessible.
Until 2025 Blue badge holders are exempt from the charges but not sure what's gonna happen then if they don't have compliant cars. "
I think many assume all blue badge holders qualify for Motability cars and that on a 3yr cycle, all badge holders will have newer cars by then. My car is a 2012 diesel. It's mine, I don't qualify for motability and I funded my own adaptations. I fund my own mobility equipment 100% - wheelchair, everything. I don't plan on getting a new car before 2025 unless mine dies completely. I can't afford to buy a car and to then pay for my own adaptation again. |
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"That's why I take the underground.
I'm glad that this is not something I have to worry about either.
Yes until it is made fully accessible it is very difficult.
The problem is that punitive measures are put in place before things are accessible. They keep threatening the same sort of thing here in Manchester. I cannot get on a single train within a six/seven mile radius of my house, as stations are not accessible. If they put such charges in place here, I will no longer be able to afford to go to my job in the city centre. I will literally have to quit my job and all because I have the audacity to need a get from A to B on wheels.
Cycling? Doesn't help people like me. Walking? Same. Get public transport (right now) also deeply unhelpful. What are disabled people supposed to do in London now? They can't rely on the underground or overground trains - many stations are inaccessible.
Until 2025 Blue badge holders are exempt from the charges but not sure what's gonna happen then if they don't have compliant cars.
I think many assume all blue badge holders qualify for Motability cars and that on a 3yr cycle, all badge holders will have newer cars by then. My car is a 2012 diesel. It's mine, I don't qualify for motability and I funded my own adaptations. I fund my own mobility equipment 100% - wheelchair, everything. I don't plan on getting a new car before 2025 unless mine dies completely. I can't afford to buy a car and to then pay for my own adaptation again. "
That's why for now it is blue badge holders rather than mobility cars. I know some funding is available for certain qualifying people to get new cars but I don't know who qualifies as it's not something we need to look into. Totally agree though faddy is affecting the disabled and low income families the most. Something does have to be done about air quality particularly in London though it is a difficult situation. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
Where can I find the map that shows CC/LEZ/ULEZ? I've looked at the Gov's website, but it's still not displaying them, depite saying click here....grr.
TFL and Gove want to fine you and charge you, but won't show you on a large clear map. There is a street by street guide: but that's only good to locals. |
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